MLs do not hold this view. China isn't perfect, and copying their model completely wouldn't work at all. The Soviet Union, China, and the DPRK all use different models of socialism.

[+] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip -9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

You say this, but I have met MLs (not on lemmy) who tout the DPRK as a utopia and shut down all of my criticism as western brainwashing.

I feel both our perspectives are anecdotal and the real answer lies between our observations.

[–] 9skyguy0@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have met MLs (not on lemmy) who tout the DPRK as a utopia and shut down all of my criticism as western brainwashing.

Again, MLs don't hold the view that the Soviet Union, China, the DPRK, Cuba, Vietnam, or any socialist country is perfect. Here's an example of criticisms brought against Stalin (thanks Dessalines for compiling an excellent resource list). We absolutely do critique past and present failures and contradictions and try to do better.

[–] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

Care to share some examples?

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

But you're talking to MLs right now...

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

I haven't seen anyone claim the DPRK is a utopia, just an existing socialist country with its own struggles.