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Hi guys, actually I was a hardcore Firefox and Brave browser user. Which means I have already used some powerful browsers available today.

Some days ago I posted a negative review about the Vivaldi browser, and another person commented that Vivaldi is not just a Chrome fork but more than that. So I thought, am I misunderstood about Vivaldi? Is Vivaldi really awesome and equivalent to Firefox and Brave? So I installed it and tried.

I am in Debian. In the native Debian repo there is no Vivaldi, but it's downloadable from the official website as a .deb package. When we install the .deb package, it automatically adds the repo to the Debian repo list, so automatic updates are possible.

When I opened Vivaldi, it welcomed me with a welcome screen, and I needed to click around 6-7 times on the next button to land on the start page. I expected a minimal browser, and that's ok; maybe it's a part of customization. Then on the homepage there are some built-in bookmarks/speed dials. Maybe those are Vivaldi sponsors and partners. Vivaldi has to make some money to maintain the browser, right?.

The default search engine is startpage, which is very good. Btw, Firefox still has Google as default, which I really hate. There are lots and lots of options to customize the browser and make it ours, including sync to make the settings synced across platforms where we use the Vivaldi browser.

But the sync doesn't seem to sync all settings, only some of them, also in extensions. Some extension settings, like SponsorBlock and dislike returns, are synced, but some other extensions, like AI Block for YouTube and Reddit Enhancer, have not synced across browsers.

I really want to talk about the adblocker on Vivaldi. Yeah, Vivaldi has an adblock and tracker blocker shield by default (turned off), but this is much less efficient at eliminating ads and cosmetic filtering on web pages. Somewhat in some popular news sites other than YouTube and Reddit, I still see ads and promotions. Also, the tracker blocking test online never gave me a 100% just with Vivaldi's built-in blocker.

In such cases many extensions and filter lists come to help us make our web browsing more secure and faster. But recently installing and managing extensions on Vivaldi has become too hard. It's also impossible to sideload extensions into Vivaldi by dragging and dropping CRX files. Also, when we are in the web store, there is always an annoying popup that says "Switch to Chrome." Inside the setting, I turned on the brand browser as Chrome inside Vivaldi, so why is the pop-up still there? So finally, we have to download the zip file of an extension and extract it. Then, by enabling developer mode in vivaldi://extensions, we have to load it unpacked. But still, this won't work effectively at all. I know it's not intentionally done by Vivaldi, but Google's stupid changes cause this.

Recently Google completely wiped MV3 from all Chromium-based browsers except ungoogled Chromium, Brave, Helium, etc., but Vivaldi is an independent company, right? Why does Vivaldi have to follow Google's strict tricks to make advertising online more effective? Why shouldn't Vivaldi make its own ad blocker more powerful, or instead of building it themselves, why don't they consider making uBlock or AdGuard compatible with their browser? Finally, I figured out a way to sideload uBlock, but still it's not working as amazingly as before.

So many will tell me to just use uBlock Lite, but even though uBlock Lite now has custom filter list options, adding 3 filter lists externally makes that extension crash only in Vivaldi. Then we reopen the extensions setting to see there is no filter list shown, not even the default one. Until we reset the extension settings completely, which removes the custom list we added.

Also in KDE (Wayland), the browser is working almost perfectly, but in GNOME I am unable to drag and reorder installed extensions on the toolbar by pressing and holding Ctrl. I figured out that GNOME has worse drag-and-drop support. But still, this works on every other browser like Brave, ungoogled-chromium, Helium, and Firefox, but why not on Vivaldi? Opening a support post on their forum didn't even give a clear answer.

Finally, Vivaldi is a very good browser for productivity, customization, and more unnecessary control most people don't need. But what about privacy? Do even they have anything in that browser to say the word "privacy" except an insufficient ad/tracker blocker? I wish Vivaldi and its developers would deeply look into its possible privacy protections on the modern web and ad/tracker-blocking capabilities.

Thank you.

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There was a time I chose Firefox over the Chromium browser without a second thought. But nowadays, installing and opening Firefox seems like a time-consuming, very bloated experience.

Too many unnecessary features, promotions, sponsored links, and widgets are filled on the homepage. Firefox no longer allows deleting default search engines like google, perplexity, etc but can disable it. What kind of privacy feature is that? Also, all the data collection options are ticked by default. Users are needed to manually tweak it their own. Update after update instead of improving they make all the settings more complex, and there is a lot to set up after a fresh installation.

When I compare modern Firefox with 4–5 years behind Firefox, I feel like I am using browsers like Vivaldi or Opera instead of Firefox. Once we praised Firefox for its ram management in Linux but nowadays, it's bloat causes using more ram and not a lightweight option anymore. Seriously, Firefox must consider releasing a browser like Brave Origin (Firefox Origin or something).

Isn't anybody else frustrated with the new Firefox changes? If yes, what practical solutions exist? Debloat using any script or install any forks (no forks seem to be good; some are outdated, some are too much hardened, some are just not for daily browsing, etc.).

I'm just looking for a browser like Ungoogled Chromium but for Firefox (Unmozilla Firefox).

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seems to use [as little as..] 5% of memory that firefox uses. (pending more testing)
nice features:

  • ad blockers
  • export bookmarks
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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by imjustmsk@lemmy.ml to c/browsers@lemmy.ml
 
 

Is there truly no good browser to use? I mean, everyone obviously hate chrome for obvious reasons, firefox is getting a lotta hate for somany stuff- whenever someone mention brave , people hate it too, and ladybird too(ladybird is not really usable yet, I guess- but It also happens to be in a lotta controversy, i wanted to know if any of ya'll even consider using it, when it's stable or why won't you use it), I just wanted to know, why all of these browsers are considered "bad", or if it is even bad, I don't know- and what are the good options.

(I don't know much about these anyway, I mostly use browsers based on firefox personally, I just want ublock origin that's all lol )

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/47871545

🌐 Many companies now block older browser versions from accessing their websites!

This follows many browser makers ending updates 4 older operating systems, leaving legacy devices unable to use web services without an OS upgrade.

This kinda reminds me of the Java website block by browsers a few years ago, just in reverse. (Revenge? ;)

Old Android versions are also increasingly blocked from accessing the Google appstore.

Truly about security or perhaps Planned Obsolescence?

Update: "old devices can only use old os > old os can only use old browser > old browser cannot use web> poor uneducated people = screwed once again!"

"Only suggesting corporate browsers, kinda like an ad."

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Opening new tabs as windows in Firefox-based browsers on Android?

Is there some way, either natively on Gecko browsers, or through extensions / forks?

It was a feature I liked on Chrome and really could use on #Firefox #browsers since I'm not going back to Chromium overall.

Thanks in advance!

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I've heard a lot about Zen browser, and I'm considering switching to it. However I can't find info about adblocking with it, does it work similar to Firefox?

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Whenever you see the in page popup "Login to Some Website with Google" that is an iframe back to Google servers. The less Google knows about me, the happier I am.

Is there a reliable mechanism similar to UBlock where I can just block them?

Web search's have led to "guides" by Google on how to request they stop making it obvious they are tracking you.

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A reminder for those using chromium based browsers. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Firefox can keep visited links purple and does not allow any website to know whether a link is purple or has been visited.

If “Partition the Visited Link Database, including ‘self-links’” is enabled, Chrome cannot keep visited links purple globally.

If “Partition the Visited Link Database, including ‘self-links’” is disabled, Chrome keeps visited links purple globally, but websites can sniff CSS and determine which links you have visited.

From this perspective firefox seems like a better choice.

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A week with Brave Origin Nightly. (the.unknown-universe.co.uk)
submitted 4 months ago by TheIPW@lemmy.ml to c/browsers@lemmy.ml
 
 

Brave Origin Nightly exists for people who want the browser to get out of the way. I’ve been using it for a week to see if it actually delivers on that.

It is fast and stable, but there is a specific part of the model that just doesn’t make sense to me.

My thoughts on the good and the bad are here.

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I love DuckDuckGo, cannot wait until they create a E-Mail service, to stop using GMail.
I am really happy with DuckDuckGo's Internet Browser,

When it up came up to my Computer Software Industry manager brother's attention, his response is that it must be Chrome based. Implying it is not as good as I imagine in preventing data collecting & Etc., because it is based through Chrome. I just trusted DuckDuckGo, being a long time user of their services, is not just working through Chrome & allowing data collection & Etc., that DuckDuckGo has made it's services to be against.

Two-Off Topic of this thread-question, Why, under 'Browsers List's 'Open Source browsers, is DuckDuckGo not listed or listed any where?
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Why, under 'Browsers List's 'Closed Source browsers, is Chrome not recommended? I do not disagree, I hate it & I know why I would not recommend Chrome, but I am wondering why not recommended by forum creator? Very publicly, You would think it would make this forum unpopular, given Microsoft & Chromes popularity.

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I watch videos on x1.5 but sometimes it sounds like chimpunks . ARe there tools to clean it up ?

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Along with regular search

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Firefox focus scored the highest, but lacks basic functionality tools like tabs or enabling your Mozilla account. It also has google s the default search engine, but that can be changed.

I just did this because I was curious and decided it was worth neglecting my normal adult responsibilities for.

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Where is it stored ? In un googled chromium.

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