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[Caution, leftist infighting/snide remarks below]

spoilerI'm confused, doesn't worsening material conditions count as political utility in his eyes?

Edit:I normally wouldn't have an issue, since it's actually pretty sane, but I literally thought to myself today "it would be funny if BE said Kirk's death was a bad thing because adventurism will make things worse." I was joking. I'm starting to hypothosize that economists [both accelerationist and reformists] are actually simps for the status quo

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If you've never heard a speech from him then you should watch that interview.

What he's saying about the official euro-american data for narcotrafic is true, i verified it a few years ago, and i'm glad he gave the sources.
What he's stating about the libertarian and democratic side of the venezuelan socialism is also true from what i've read/heard, like in Cuba or Nicaragua, even if the revolution would have succumbed to the u.s. pressure without authoritanism towards those conspiring to bring it down. If you've got a good source/book to share on their system of government/enterprises/livelihood/economy/.., don't hesitate to post it below i'm interested.
Obligatory prolewiki link : https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Bolivarian_Republic_of_Venezuela
End the sanctions, and sorry for all the pain we're causing.

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Uding this Old Edit I made WAY Back btw.

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/6102031

Credit to Caitlin Johnstone

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Elections have historically been a fundamental pillar of democracy, serving as the primary mechanism for citizens to express their will and elect their representatives. However, in the current Venezuelan context, the debate transcends the mere selection of leaders to focus on a deeper question: how power can and should be effectively transferred to the people . A recent discussion, organized by the Pueblos Institute for Original Thought, addressed these crucial issues, featuring the participation of prominent intellectuals such as decolonial thinker Ramón Grosfoguel and Hernán Vargas, Vice Rector of Communal Economy at the National University of the Communes (UNACOM), and moderated by Luis Berrizbeitia, director of the PUEBLOS Institute. The event sought to develop and debate fundamental aspects of the Venezuelan political structure and situation, including the previous analyses published by the institute on the upcoming municipal elections, to be held on July 27 of this year.

The Fundamental Contradiction: Representative Democracy vs. Popular Participation

The core of the discussion revolved around the inherent tension between representative democracy and participatory democracy in Venezuela. This "historical contradiction," understood as the dynamic between constituted power (the representative state) and constituent power (popular power), constitutes a distinctive feature of the Bolivarian process. Article 5 of the 1999 Venezuelan Constitution explicitly addresses this duality by stipulating that sovereignty resides " nontransferably in the people, and they exercise it in two ways ": indirectly (through voting) and directly (through mechanisms generated by legislation). This formulation, far from eluding the contradiction, centrally positions it as a " field of creative tension " that demands to be addressed and resolved.

President Nicolás Maduro's call for the new era to be characterized by "handing power over to the people" represents a fundamental challenge. It entails a reconfiguration of the state's role, where the state "disempowers itself" to transfer authority, transforming representation delegated through voting into direct and meaningful participation . The speakers analyzed how these models of representation and participation dynamically intertwine in the current moment of transition, raising crucial questions about how models of representation and participation interact in the current moment of transition and about the coexistence of future elected mayors with these ideas of political and democratic construction.

Venezuelan Innovation and the Lessons of 20th Century Socialism

Ramón Grosfoguel emphasized that Commander Chávez made a fundamental "decolonial turn" in Latin American political thought. Chávez understood that the dilemma between "statists and anarchists" is a "false dilemma" inherited from the European left, unrelated to the reality of the region. For Chávez, the strategy is not "this or that," but "both at once": contesting the representative state, winning elections, and thereby interrupting policies of domination (neoliberal, patriarchal, racist), while simultaneously building the framework for popular decision-making and participation, that is, communal power, from outside . Abandoning the state to the right or far right would be "handing them the occupation of its structures on a silver platter," so the battle must be fought in both directions simultaneously.

Grosfoguel emphasized that the challenges posed by the transition to a communal state or society are "original to the Bolivarian process," as there is no successful previous experience to serve as a model. He recalled that Hugo Chávez always encouraged us to look critically at 20th-century socialism, warning that, with the best intentions, "21st-century socialism" could repeat its problems. He historically analyzed how, after the Paris Commune, Marx and Engels conceived of a "communal communard state," which Lenin attempted to systematize with the experience of the soviets during the Russian Revolution. However, after the civil war, the soviets were destroyed, and 20th-century socialism, for the most part, was built on that 1921 "snapshot," with a party that "ruled by commanding" rather than "obeying." In his speeches, Chávez warned the community members not to allow themselves to be "instrumentalized or dominated" by the party, insisting that power should be in the hands of the people and the party at the service of the commune , not the other way around, a clear reference to the Soviet experience where the communes became "transmission belts" for the party.

Given that there is no prior experience with a transition from an inherited state to a communal state, Grosfoguel affirmed that Venezuela is "innovating" on the socialist experience of the last 200 years, following Simón Rodríguez's maxim: "we invent or we err." The challenge is how to move from a representative state, built by the bourgeoisie and imperialism, to a communal society where power does not operate from the top down . Grosfoguel suggested that municipalities, due to their proximity to the grassroots, can be a "site of experimentation" for this transition, where communes, as a "political subject" and "horizon of transformation," can gradually replace the state in daily decisions. The solution, he emphasized, will emerge "creatively from below, from the people themselves," and not from partisan directives. The key is to generate awareness among the "people" that the path forward is to gradually replace the existing state with a communal state.

Advances and Challenges in the Construction of Popular Power

Hernán Vargas delved into the construction of popular power, outlining its organizational evolution from initial sectoral forms, such as technical water committees or urban land committees, to more comprehensive structures represented by communal councils and communes. A crucial sociopolitical aspect he highlighted is the transformation in the profile of Venezuelan political leadership: a growing prevalence of figures from the community is observed , which contrasts sharply with the Western trend, where economic and business elites tend to dominate the political sphere.

In quantitative terms, Vargas presented a revealing comparison that underscores the country's commitment to popular power. While the country elects a limited number of representatives to positions such as 335 mayors, 24 governors, and various legislative deputies, there is a vast network of spokespersons for popular power . It is estimated that "just over 1,700,000 people have been elected by their community as spokespersons" in approximately 40,000 communal councils. This figure, substantially higher than that of officials elected by representative means, "gives an idea of ​​where our commitment lies in terms of the struggle for power," indicating a clear orientation toward the popular base.

Vargas cited Chávez in 2012, who postulated that building socialism required popular power to be capable of generating "new forms of political management, new forms of planning, new ways of producing the material conditions of life under different forms of sociability," and, simultaneously, of "destroying, pulverizing, the forms of the bourgeois state." The current scenario of July 27, with the coincidence of municipal elections and a popular youth consultation on communal projects, reiterates the centrality of this contradiction. It demands the intervention of "political operators on both sides of the issue" (representative and popular), whose work implies that their current role "ceases to exist or mutates into another type" in accordance with the transfer of power.

There was speculation about the possibility of a future constitutional reform that, rather than referring to generic direct forms, "would probably already speak of the commune, of the construction of the communal state." This vision is presented not as a utopian thesis, but as a projection based on accumulated practice and experience. The key lies in generating the "conditions of strength" necessary to advance this project, transcending mere rational argumentation . Elected mayors, therefore, must take an active role in pulverizing the bourgeois state and its old forms of management, favoring the growth of the communal alternative. Vargas warned, in line with Chávez's thinking, that the commune cannot be limited to the local level, as this would lead to failure and competition; its development must scale to the municipal, regional, and national levels.

The Role of Leadership and the Political Program

The discussion also emphasized the importance of the program as true leadership, a concept President Maduro has emphasized. Instead of electing just one person, the people must elect a project and have mechanisms to monitor its implementation, a concept Chávez called "social oversight." This implies that the centrality of the program must be established as a political culture, moving beyond the discussion of who will accomplish the task to focus on the programmatic content . It was emphasized that "the political offer must increasingly be based on the transition program that allows us to advance in the construction of socialism."

Hernán Vargas also made a distinction between "antagonistic contradictions" and "resolvable" or secondary contradictions. He argued that there is no antagonistic contradiction between the elected mayor and popular power, as long as the official fulfills his or her role as operator of a bourgeois state that must be transformed. The task is to work together to "destroy, transform, and modify" the state's metabolic logic.

The University of the Communes and the Systematization of Knowledge

The National University of the Communes, according to Vargas, has a central role in producing knowledge, awareness, and methods for this transition phase, building a revolutionary theory for territorial socialism from the commune, through a dialogue that generates civilizational alternatives . Grosfoguel added that the University of the Commune must be clear about "what it should not do," avoiding becoming another "Westernized, colonial, Eurocentric" institution and ensuring the participation of the community members themselves in the production of knowledge. Professors and staff must be "at the service of the project" and of the community members, allowing them to "take ownership of the space, build it, and promote the knowledge they need, not what we think they need."

Conclusion and Critical Perspectives

In short, the discussion emphasized that the transition to a participatory democracy model in Venezuela is not just a matter of political theory, but a practical and urgent necessity. Popular participation should not be a mere slogan, but a tangible reality reflected in government structures and in the daily lives of citizens.

The construction of the "historical subject" of this transition implies a double transformation: on the one hand, the traditional subject in representative positions must "self-destruct" or "subvert" their role; on the other, the subaltern subject must overcome the culture of waiting for solutions and transform into a " political subject of the people " who actively participates in the collective construction of their own alternatives. This process, antagonistic to top-down construction, is based on the aggregation of wills for transformation.

The role of the Peoples Institute for Original Thought is crucial, not only as a space for debate, but as a catalyst for social and political change in the country, confronting historical contradictions and building innovative knowledge and practice in a constant "democratic ebullition," without static manuals, questioning itself time and again. However, there is a pending debt in the systematization and international dissemination of the Venezuelan experience, even among sectors of the Latin American left, which limits the reach of these valuable lessons.

In light of the reflections presented, a series of key points and challenges emerge that require strategic attention and concerted action. These elements not only consolidate the lessons learned from the discussion, but also outline future avenues for deepening and materializing the participatory democratic project in Venezuela.

Points for Action and Critical Reflection:

  1. Strengthening awareness and tools: It is imperative to provide community spokespersons with greater awareness and practical and theoretical tools for territorial self-governance, promoting new forms of political management, planning, and production.
  2. Transforming the State's Role: Mayors and elected officials must take on the challenge of actively working to transform or eliminate their traditional roles, transferring power to the communities and shattering the metabolic logic of the bourgeois state.
  3. Centrality of the program and social oversight: It is essential to consolidate a political culture where the program is the true leader, enabling collective management and planning of social issues and overcoming dependence on individual leaders.
  4. International visibility: The theoretical systematization of the Venezuelan communal experience and its international dissemination are urgent tasks to counteract hegemonic narratives and share a model of participatory democracy that is an "innovation" in the history of socialism. The development of subaltern political theory is necessary.
  5. Formalization of the Communal State: The possibility of a constitutional reform that formalizes the communal state as a non-utopian thesis, but rather one based on accumulated practice, represents a strategic horizon for Venezuela's political future.
  6. Strategic Dimensions of the Commune: Maintaining and developing the vision of the commune not only as a political and social project, but also as a civilizational alternative to ecological collapse and as a strategic anti-imperialist geopolitical element, is key to its transcendence.

This process of " democratic ferment " is a path without static manuals, requiring constant questioning and a capacity for innovation to build a more just and participatory model of society. The consolidation of this model represents not only a political task, but a historical imperative for the profound transformation of power structures and the full realization of popular sovereignty.

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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/6090028

Please see corresponding end notes below.

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Looked into the country, these Nepalese 'Communists' Are More akind to Neo-Libs rather than Actual Dictator of the Proletariat. Damn, That sucks. Is there any More info ?

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Hello and welcome to back to our groups time honored tradition the Weekly Discussion Thread. Please [Do not forget to fill this space twice in a row someone would comment on that]. And enjoy our Weekly Discussion Thread

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"Salem travels to Lebanon for the first time ever from Palestine. He explores the past and present of colonialism in the region and how lines drawn in the sand by empires ended up f*ucking this region up."

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If you want the descriptions of what it was like just after the Atomic bombings in Hiroshima, the source I read got their excerpts from "To hell and back: last train to Hiroshima." [I think it's factually fine. The original book got retracted but I haven't seen anyone object to the second printing, and most of the issues related to the stories of the Enola Gay or the science and not the stories of victims].

As I was reading these horror stories, there was something in my mind that kept just weeping. This was a terrorist attack. Not just against the Japanese but against the whole world. Hundreds of thousands of people died, either instantly vaporized or agononizingly slowly over the course of hours to years. Elderly, women, children, disabled, and even Korean victims of Japanese slavery. All of that was done so the US could intimidate the world [more specifically, the USSR]. It wasn't an unfortunate sacrifice, it wasnt a mistake. It was an act of pure and unfettered terrorism, that gets justified in schools and propaganda outlets.

And they wanted to do it again. Douglas MacArthur wanted to drop 50 along the Korean-chinese border, Eisenhower (or people in the government associated with him at least) essentially threatened the chinese with the same thing. The soviets were threatened on a scale of thousands of hiroshimas before the Cuban missile crisis.

The way I felt when I was reading the accounts of these attacks was the same way I felt when reading about the Nanjing massacre. Almost incomprehensible horrors.

I get not a lot of people will disagree with me here but I just had to get it out because fuck I'm depressed

Edit:I forgot to add. I know this wasn't the worst crime during the war. I don't feel like ranking crimes against humanity but the crimes committed during the Holocaust and the Japanese war of aggression in China were obviously worse. I just wanted to say that because occasionally I get accused of being one of those "Japan [as a whole] is a victim" people

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Haitian theory from the man himself.

Embrace Marxism-Leninism-Maoism Babekyu Thought.

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This is a basic preliminary post to something that I'm hoping to actually make into something more professional.

To preface: This is a thought I've been meaning to share after BE's "don't join a union" post over on Twitter. I generally just ignore his stuff for the purpose of left unity, especially in these trying times, but his sentiment is something ive seen a lot and something I don't particularly agree with.

Post in question:

To define accelerationism on the left, it's

The belief that in order for a revolution to happen, material conditions must worsen and, ergo, the goal of socialists should be to make those material conditions worse.

This is my definition but it's not a new one or esoteric, at least I don't think it is. And it makes sense from the first go around, and generally confers to marxist theory*

*except that it doesn't.

The problem with this idea is a few things.

  1. Yes, standards of living decreasing generally makes people more agitated, and even more class conscious. But this is not a guarantee. Just look at Nazi Germany. Weren't living standards horrible? During the Weimar era, shouldn't have there been (another) communist uprising? How did capitalism keep going when living standards were so bad. This basically applies most places.

2.This leads to the second, and main, point. This is economism, pure and simple.

When I first heard Antonio Gramsci being described as a "marxist humanist," I was skeptical of his work. Is this some form of "left nietzchein" or "left hegelian?" (I.e Zizek?) No, Gramsci is extremely important reading for any modern leftist. They must understand they are a part of the human social system, the same as everyone else, and must work to break down the Bourgeois hegemony that exists. The key to this thought is how people develop consciousness. They develop it by being given a way out, and hand to help them out of a pit of despair.

To get more specific, the four main points are

A.No reasonable offline person believes this.

No really, imagine trying to convince some person, no matter their race or geographic origin, and your argument is "we should sit on our asses, not join a union, not agitate, let fascism get worse to own the libs, and fight for welfare getting dismantled." Yeah, I'm sure whoever you're trying to convince is going to follow marxism if that's the goal.

B. This is the same logic economism-ites used to say "there is nothing we can do."

This happens a lot unfortunately, but it's especially annoying seeing it repeated in the other direction. Economists in communist parties essentially believe they hold an outside role on the changes in social order and production. That they are simply to sit there and wait for economic crisis to hit and then to spring into action. This happened in Norway (I actually reccomend a YouTuber named Fredda if you're more interested in this period) and of course it happened in many other places. Accelerationism is just the opposite side of this, that there is no point in agitation or trying to foment consciousness if the economic conditions aren't bad enough yet. It only took me a minute to realize that what the accelerationists were saying was very familiar. Maybe they're still better than economism-ists, but only by a small margin. The idea is that you, and every other soldier for the working class, is part of the great historical movements, and these great historical movements only gain momentum by the exposing of contradictions and the proposing of alternatives to the masses.

C.You...just need something eith organizational capacity dumbass.

This is more specific to BE, but in order to have a revolution, nay, even just to fight against the imperialist actions of the nation you live in, then you need organizational capacity.

Yes, there are bad and reactionary unions. But there are also bad and reactionary "left" parties. That doesn't mean people shouldn't be joining parties. How do you get people to strike against delivering Israeli cargo? How do you get boycotts and work stoppages and wildcat strikes? How do you do these things without an organization like a union? The simple answer is that you can't.

And how do you deliver results to the people without fighting for them? This isn't to say we should stop of social democratic reforms, obviously, but who is to take credit for successful policies or increases in wages and such? Without organizational capabilities then employers can just choose to give concessions occasionally and get worker love for pennies, because they don't know they can have it all.

D. A great way to make conflict occur is protecting welfare.

To oversimplify a lot, let's say the state and Bourgeoisie has a combined leftover budget of 1 million dollars. If they have no resistance to policies and such that make things worse, they can use that 1 million dollars on weapons of war or militarized police forces or other things to engender imperialism and such, while dismantling social security or safety laws to make up the difference. But, let's say hypothetically, the state and Bourgeoisie has to fight to get rid of these institutions, or let's say employers have to fight tooth and nail with Unions to cut pay and workers and safety measures. That's certainly going to make the entire world genocide thing a lot harder isn't it? And of course, what's going to radicalize someone more? Life just getting worse, or the mask of humanity falling from the Bourgeoisie's face as they unite to take away their maternity leave or work breaks?

Again, this is preliminary. I'd prefer to write a full polemic on this at better times, but knowing BE and the world, he'll probably say something else stupid before the world gets better. Also sorry for any mistakes and such, I'm writing this late and i don't feel like proof checking againt.

And also, I want to repeat that I know this is mainly said by people online, but I've seen it enough that I'm starting to get concerned how many people don't engage with the world because they think everything beings worse will make things better automatically.

And lastly, this is not an argument against anti-imperialism. I know if I was brainded enough to be on Twitter then people would definitely accuse me of making an argument for social imperialism. These are not separate things, but accelerationism is a different argument. Anti imperialism does argue for restricting the potential super profits that are used to bribe labor aristocracy, but that's not exclusive to accerationist ideas. And after all, shouldn't an accelerationist want more wars? After all, more war means worse conditions and worse conditions means revolution. Just look at Russian and Germany in world War one obviously.

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