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[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 65 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I suggest moving to any other search engine, if anyone hasn't already. If duckduckgo isn't to your taste, startpage.com uses Google's database without pushing any of this nonsense.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago (6 children)

We use noai.DuckDuckGo.com now.

[–] EliteCloneMike@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Been using DDG for years now, and have since turned off AI. My only issue with DDG, StartPage, and Ecosia, is that they don’t do their own indexing (AFAIK). I still use them, but have been looking into Kagi and Brave (I know they have their own issues as well) as I think they index independently of Google or Microsoft. With not having an independent index, then the search engine is at the mercy of the companies that do. Such as is Google wants to remove or deprioritize something, it would also be seen in StartPage. Again, that my understanding and it may be wrong.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The largest fully independent generalist search engines are Yandex (which is no better than Google/Bing, unless you want something that doesn't deprioritize sites for DMCA reasons) and Mojeek. You may want to read A look at search engines with their own indexes, although it's about a year out of date now.

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