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[–] joe@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Any pause will have to be a global treaty; the unfortunate reality is that we're in an arms race now, and despite Sanders' threats otherwise, I don't think there is going to be much will to pause in the US while China keeps developing.

And to be clear, I think it would be every wise to pause development and, afterwards, keep the pace slow. We know how to make "AI" more capable, but we don't know how to make it stay aligned with human goals. The technology is useful and isn't going anywhere, but that doesn't mean we have to develop it as quickly as possible without regard to the real dangers it brings with it.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 34 points 1 week ago (28 children)

Any pause will have to be a global treaty

Which is why tech CEOs love to promote it. They know it'll never happen.

We know how to make “AI” more capable, but we don’t know how to make it stay aligned with human goals.

"Alignment" is almost entirely a myth cooked up by AI companies who want to make their word generators sound scarier than they are. There's no such thing: the next word generator generates next word. It's unpredictable because it's built that way. "Hallucination" and "going rogue", all poor terms and pathetic attempts to fearmonger and humanize, are identical functions to "working" and "aligning".

The technology... isn’t going anywhere

The "it's just inevitable" cliche rears its ugly head again.

[–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That cliche is the worst. If applied to anything else you can see how absurd it is. Like NFTs aren't going anywhere, crime isn't going anywhere, etc.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except NFTs were never used to nearly even close to the same amount as AI, it had much less usecases and the one that did "catch on" was idiotic.

Crime is a symptom of a problem, not a technological advancement, apples and oranges.

AI the tool is never going away in the same way the internet is never going away. (Barring our entire civilization collapses and we lose knowledge/connectivity/life lmao)

[–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (26 children)

"AI is never going away" neither did NFTs nor crime, nor anything else really. We should try to stop these awful companies from doing awful things.

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[–] Mathium05@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Alignment is a real thing, though it can be a less than apt description. Mostly the goals you write out and the goals you want to happen not being the same thing. You can also have alignment issues where the dataset doesn't match the real data in some way and the classifications break down. (I am not an AI defender I am very anti-AI)

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[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (18 children)

We’re not in an arms race. That’s part of the bullshit Anthropic and like want you to believe. LLMs are not nukes. LLMs are a fad with most benefits having been to coders, presuming they were already good coders.

25 years from now we’re either going to still be in this “arms race,” or we’ll have better clarity on how the billionaire class misled us all.

Stopping development will do us more good than the harm of perusing a perpetual wealth transfer in the name of a fake arms race.

Even if it were an arms race. Slowing down means you eventually speed back up in a better direction. Why would you want to be so gun ho about what’s clearly an argument for progressing with arrogance toward the technology, because someone else might discover something first? What?

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[–] riskable@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's beyond "an arms race." AI has become a commodity that's everywhere and it's being used and developed by zillions of completely different groups all over the world with wildly varying use cases and completely different goals.

At this point, trying to ban it would be like trying to ban dandelions from growing.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Arms race

Woah, we're talking LLMs here, this is not a secret military technology. And China is very open about the developments made there - you can freely study and reverse engineer plenty of Chinese models, and see all the weights out in the open.

This whole race about them is, in my opinion, nothing but trying to pump the bubble even faster, churning the economy in the process and playing on gullible or self-interested politicians. Countries will be just fine assessing risks and then moving on.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Stop with the threats and just fucking do it. This shit is why everyone thinks the Dems are useless.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (8 children)

It's not a threat, it's a plea.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I doubt he can. Too many other Senators getting checks from the Chatbot labs.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I mean if you didn't already know Bernie isn't a democrat.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

How will they be able to handle the onslaught of a strongly worded letter?

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If he can get senate action on AI then why can't he get senate action on all the other plethora of crap happening to us right now?

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 week ago

He cant, but he wants to. Which is important.

We should never take something away from an action with good intentions, just because others want to stop him.

Thats not how we get the change in the end. Because someday it might succeed.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Stop the investment, most importantly.

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[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

They bought the senate Bernie

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What Senate action will he take? Have a hearing when the senators will try to get sound bites in for reelection?

[–] axh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

At this point US Senat actions (especially those by Democrats) seem even less effective than European serious concern.

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[–] nehal3m@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This is playing into their hand. “Oh your tech is so amazing and powerful and must be paused!”

Nah. It’s a bullshit bubble that’s threatening to tear down world order, or what’s left of it.

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[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 week ago

This comment section is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

[–] corbindallas@fedinsfw.app 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

oh good luck with that bernie.. while he's not wrong, there's too much money passing hands for this to be a threat

[–] MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Acctually its the same $20 being passed around they have just really improved the speed and efficiency of passing it on.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did he buy into their hype claims of sentient AI?

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Bernie Sanders is a politician, he should tell the public how he plans to add safety mechanisms and safeguards to AI. Granting the government and corporations full authority and control over it while limiting public access is how you turn AI into a digital nuclear weapon.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I rarely see a criticism of Bernie Sanders that isn't some form of perfect solution fallacy and this comment is not one of them.

I'm sorry, like "Yes" but also, SIGH.

Cuz like;

  1. He's been doing this 70 years and he's said it all already.

  2. He's been doing this 70 years and he's too old to be the guy directing AI.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Onward the Butlerian Jihad! No prisoners!

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