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    [–] PinkiePieYay2707@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    I'm currently testing just outright blocking all scripts through uBO, and to be honest it is not usable. I will use it for a little longer, then for sure disable it. A lot of websites just refuse to load (thanks, SPAs), and those that do often have little interactions that break, thus making the pages hard to use or even outright unusable.

    To give some examples for those that haven't tried this: images may refuse to load (js based lazy load implementation), dropdown menus almost never work, search option usually doesn't work (and if it does it's only because it goes to a different page, which is fair), comments probably won't show up, pretty much anything "live" won't work. Oh and let's not forget the captchas and all the proof-of-work blockers.

    For me the only really interesting part about this experience is that imgur refuses to load, even if you have a direct link to an image.

    [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The company I worked for used to use SSR which was fine but the web scraping was relentless and the "free" thing we offered was relatively computationally expensive. Eventually we moved to SPA and bought into the CloudFlare protection racket. This didn't stop it of course but it made the low effort scrapers have to use a browser and hopefully bumped their costs us The advent of the LLM crawlers has made everything worse as well.

    We got a bunch of complaints when we moved to the JS only site saying we were ruining the Internet and while I didn't disagree the practicalities make it a requirement.

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    [–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I am also a bottom-right user. But browsers like Tor Browser and Mullvad Browser supposedly take care of javascript fingerprinting, at least if you check websites like amiunique.org. So I'm running out of reasons to disable javascript. What privacy reasons do you disable javascript for?

    [–] keiko@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Bottom left text gives reasons that relate to security, which is also related to privacy. I don't trust arbitrary scripts, and I find it more convenient to simply disallow them. While css can theoretically be used to track mouse movements, that is typically done with javascripts, and I find that creepy af. I don't like the feeling that I'm being observed. I get enough of that whenever I go outside into this dystopic world.

    So on that note, as I've said in some other comments within this thread, I prefer static pages from a UX perspective. Static pages feel comfy and safe, at least in comparison to the alternative. In contrast, javascripts tend to make the UX of sites worse in my view. So there aren't any compelling reasons for me to allow them most of the time.

    It comes down to this: What do I gain by allowing javascripts? What I see is largely nothing. What do I lose by allowing javascripts? Comfort, calm, and a relaxed experience.

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    [–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    Why should my computer do the work? Server-side only

    [–] Digit@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    open dyslexia font?

    nice touch.

    [–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    That makes it easier for dyslexics?

    I find it awful to read - takes a lot more effort for me I'm surprised it helps with dyslexia.

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    [–] MiRRoRMaN@ani.social 8 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Quick question (just interested here) I'm pretty new to Linux (for 3 days now if I remember correctly) but if you guys disallow scripts how does that work on sites like my own website? Mine doesn't run any ads or trackers very conciously because i'm against it (and any type of commercialism, for that matter), however it does use a lot of script just in order to work.

    [–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

    This disabling scripts thing is really for hardcore privacy enthusiasts. Just install librewolf on your linux box, change the DNS on your router to block ads and you're good.

    The reason i say it's for enthusiasts is that it will break everything as soon as you do it. And i mean it. The modern web is not useful without java script. Only websites designed specifically for working without javascript will still work.

    [–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I use noscript extension and so every new site I access I have to whitelist it if I don't find it too sus

    [–] snw@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    exactly this, I've been using noscript for at least 15 years by now, probably longer. It's annoying, sometimes. But it's worth it always.

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    [–] keiko@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    It depends on the site. Some sites which leverage javascripts are still usable without the scripts. And there is a spectrum of usability. Lemmy is a good example. Most lemmy instances which are open to the public (without captchas or login) are generally usable without javascripts. Some features don't work, but knowing the path to the page allows manually getting there without javascript buttons. So like, adding /?sort=TopHour to the end of a lemmy instance's url sets the sorting for the page to top posts in the past hour. However, some other features don't seem to work at all. But then there are lemmy instances which utilize mlmym, which basically replicates old reddit and works 100% without javascripts. And then there are instances like mbin, which is designed to be a modern fediverse experience which does not require any javascripts, and it works very well.

    When I load a site, any site, if I get a blank page or a bunch of placeholders for javascript elements, I just close the tab and move on. Sometimes if I'm curious, I'll switch from "Basic Page Style" to "No Style" (Alt+V Y N) to see if there's anything hidden beneath the surface.

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    [–] Forester@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    Burning off your fingerprints makes you far more identifiable then keeping them.

    [–] keiko@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

    In this fucked-up world, it turns out that I end up blending in, just not with other people. Users who disallow javascripts are often mistaken for bots nowadays. We don't stand out, and so we're assumed to be bots. I think that if more people browsed without javascript it'd eventually be easier to distinguish between bots and people, and captchas could maybe die out.

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    [–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Y'all are running your PC's un-airgapped?

    [–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

    My laptop is airgapped, that’s why I use WLAN

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