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The UK government is giving Apple and Google three months to build on-device scanning infrastructure. This isn't about child safety; it's about the end of private devices and the death of the "nothing to hide" fallacy.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good thing Android doesn't include Google by default

[–] somegeek@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I dont think that will last much longer. We have to work harder on linux phones

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How? Android is open source. You can just fork it

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

All Android forks are, to maintain compatibility with the used apps (LinageOS, e/OS, Degoogled Android ...)

[–] somegeek@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok you fork it and create a FOSS mobile OS. If it was that easy we would already have alternatives. The core is open source but google has been and is trying it's best to slowly take over the OS. I'm honestly not very knowledgeable about android so I don't remember the exact details.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 2 days ago

We don't need to, because AOSP works great.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely not, it is currently but they are built on googles platform and devices.

Linux phone is what we want

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

linux is not secure enough to be a phone lol

if cops arrest you and its not fully turned off and encrypted with luks youre boned, and look at all the current devices supported for linux, its basically just the very expensive pine or fair phone. older pixels are fairly easy to buy in poorer countries.

then theres postmarketos which has the far larger selection of devices but most of these are quite old at this point. not to mention it uses far more resources and will drain your battery 10-20% faster

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the goal being to get linux to where it needs to be is better than it being a variation of a google product.

It is not out of the realm of possibility if gOS got a decent market share that google could get some bullshit corrupt court to block or take it over.

They have said AOSP wont bave the third party blocking but it very much could be forced through. What then gOS stays on an old AOSP?

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

idk why you think its somehow a much more monumental task to support something that already works (re:gos and aosp) vs building something entirely from scratch

linux needs to focus on becoming as secure as aosp/gos first before even considering being on a phone

[–] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well marceline by the time a new generation of GOS security update guarantees elapses (7-8 years) maybe you can all have Chinese phones in Mexico

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what makes you think im in mexico

[–] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh just the first country that occurred to me for fleeing purposes where you can get a BYD car. Was thinking turtle island based on site demographics. That was phenomenally unclear of me as usual wasn't it

Underlying point: western tolerance/funding/compatibility of privacy/FOSS tools is not reliable once chip & datacenter monopolies become uncertain. It's being the center of the global surveillance apparatus that gives them the luxury of allowing these software solutions. They control the hardware manufacturers.

My trust does not go far even with GOS, which I am using right now. I'm not afraid of surveillance by my own government. In fact I welcome it, I'm trying to be a cooler person in general and they're a lot cooler than I am. I just want deeper control over my droid than a Chinese phone would allow, without an unlocked bootloader worrying about my phone being physically stolen (yes I am completely insane, but it helps me relax knowing if I drop it somewhere I didn't expose my employers)

Within seven years I just got to get a better phone, which they will probably be making by then. Y'all gotta get a new country & laws. We already make those so should be easy right

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I didnt say it was a more difficult task, I think it has more risk and involves aggressive third parties.