Still, as Reddit is strong-arming its way across, maybe worth signaling to people there that the fediverse may be used without an account, so long as there's even one instance that implements logged-out view as the protocol allows it?

I don't have access to my account any longer, possibly VPN ban, though I never tried to recover it so I can only guess why mine is lost, else I'd post myself.

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[–] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe Lemmy has the potential for a wider range of discussion and debate than Reddit, or any other social media platform I've been on, simply because of the defederated & community-based system.

In theory, I agree with you - and that was my very hope when I first got into the fediverse. Unfortunately, the reality has proven to be different...

The issue, as you describe, seems to be saying the wrong thing in the wrong place, which, to be honest, is similar to the real world.

Except it's much, much worse than in the real world. I've been in circles with right wingers, and I am notoriously stubborn about not hiding my viewpoint (which very often clashes with that of right wingers), and even there the reaction is less crazy than on Lemmy.

For example, you can't walk up to a group of homosexuals and try to convince them they shouldn't be gay.

That's not the kind of thing I'm talking about. Of course something like that would go over like a lead balloon - in that case also because that's borderline in factual in its assumptions. A better comparison would be a conversation naturally wondering to the risks of anal sex if not done carefully and being chastised and banned for that.

Even if he was, he was in no place to take it into his own hands to address (especially in a secretive way).

I neither said nor implied that, in fact I said quite the opposite...

If you see a lot of toxicity where you browse, maybe your chosen community just isn't a healthy one.

And that's exactly the problem. More work. More digging. More research. People come to these sites to have fun and often don't have the patience nor the interest to filter through all the communities.

[–] TheKaul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think we may just not view Lemmy in the same way. I don't see these sites as "fun". Sure there are funny memes, but it's also news and meta discussions about very recent topics. If I wanted to open something to have fun it'd probably be a video game or something.

Big tech makes it easy for people to use. They want the biggest and bestest userbases with the simplest interface... Lemmy does not care how big it is, it's all about organic growth, and Lemmy by itself doesn't have a very nice interface. I'd bet most people come here because they want to get away from the others, not because they want to add it to their list of feeds to browse. That being said, people making an effort to get away from the biggest and easiest platforms are probably more likely to put effort in to cater their feeds to their own interests and viewpoints.

Also I must've misunderstood your comment on Patrick originally so that's my bad.

[–] pizzavial@thebrainbin.org 1 points 11 hours ago

Lemmy does not care how big it is, it's all about organic growth

There's no organic growth on Lemmy, the userbase was slowly shrinking since the APIcalypse. New users are largely those who were banned from Reddit.

That being said, people making an effort to get away from the biggest and easiest platforms are probably more likely to put effort in to cater their feeds to their own interests and viewpoints.

Nah, you only think so because people who got here but weren't ready to put so much effort into switching left Lemmy in disappointment.