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Protonmail.uservoice.com is supposedly "The Voice of the Proton Community". Well last week I was tracking a post that was rising rapidly to the top-most voted in the "general ideas" category. And this morning when I went to check if it was at the top yet, it's just gone without a trace. No sign that it was ever there.

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[–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think people (including me, until recently) give too much benefit of the doubt to business people, just because they'd rather believe they tell the truth when spousing ideals. Of course they'll be shady when it makes financial sense, and even be dumbasses when it makes no financial sense.

Our system selects fairly well so that people like this end up being the primary decision makers, and it's a very rare occasion when someone with morals makes it high enough and manages to stay there.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I've been thinking about this lately. We let these capitalists pretending to be Tony Stark using tech for the good of humanity when they all, without exception, proceed to use their efforts solely to harvest money and make themselves rich while engaging with childish excess, temper tantrums, and activities that harm us all. Musk is a prime example.

They all need to be tightly controlled, in both the marketplace and in any dealings they have with the government or with foreign governments. Starlink (and the space portion of Spacex) for example should be emminent domained and nationalized. We cant have idiot musk weighing in on policy decisions around Ukraine or meeting on the side with Putin and Netenyahu, or addressing congress. He's only in it to make money, not govern. There needs to be a robust firewall between the two. Our government does not exist to give these capitalists hand jobs.

[–] MrOtingocni@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Separation of church and state was the beginning of modern governments. Now we need separation of commerce and state.

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

If only it existed one country where they're tighly controlled. ☭

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 3 points 4 days ago

Well said, I'm not blameless in giving some of them more credit that they are due, and I'm accused of being supremely cynical. But if you go back from predictions and assumptions, I give them all too much credit even if it's less than almost everyone else.

We have all the wrong people in charge. From the shift manager at the restaurant to the ceo's and politicians. With some exceptions.

The leadership were all reared to believe in nothing. No morals, no loyalty outside of self interest. And they choose those people all the way down.