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[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is completely ridiculous. Why would you buy a bed that goes upright? Through the internet?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why would you buy a bed that goes upright?

Health reasons? There's a reason hospital beds can go upright.

Or just leisure, if they have a TV in the bedroom, or they use a laptop in bed, etc.

Through the internet?

Terrible design. There's no reason it shouldn't be possible with local connectivity. And realistically it should also have physical buttons as a backup.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess you have an app for it on your phone, that is already connected to the Internet. Setting up a local device to device connection can be tricky. I had some app controlled robot toy that would only by disconnecting the wifi from the router, and use it to build its own exclusive connection to the toy to stream camera feed, command etc.

Bluetooth has a very limited range and might not work through walls. And by using a cheap controller with WiFi, the company saves on physical buttons and displays.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, but there are standards that exist specifically to help with this. Matter, Thread, Zigbee. And proprietary solutions Google Home, Apple HomeKit. They could have used any of these.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

It’s a very funny story. It’s still ridiculous. I understand folks need special beds, but no buttons? Really?

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Because, and this may surprise you, some (most?) people don't think about how their stuff works. They just see it has an app and goes "neat!".

I don't know why my dishwasher should be online. But I've been with people who's smart watches twinkled to alert them that their dishwasher, located 30min away, was out of rinse aid. I can think of no scenario in which that is relevant. Rant warning There's a God damn light on the front of the unit, that tells you the same damn thing, and you can't do anything about without being at the unit. What are you going to do? Drop whatever you're doing at work and take an hour lunch break early to drive home and deal with it? Didn't think so.

BUT the person had seen the dishwasher and thought it was neat, modern, and needed a new dishwasher. And that's whywe end up with a lot of "smart" devices, which are just "ordinary devices with an cloud based remote control"

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

Nah bruh, if my dishwasher ever sends me a text message, I am taking the rest of the day off just because, and my boss would understand

[–] Buckshot@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bought a new dryer recently and ended paying more for one that didn't have internet connectivity. It's entire operation requires physical presence, why would i need ever need remote access. It's just something else to go wrong.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Different appliance, same experience.

First off, the "smart" part is just another thing that can break.

Secondly, why is it cheaper than the older/dumb device? Don't try to tell me it's because the manufacturer had to develop new electronics, with pricier components. Isn't it far more plausible, that it's because my personal data is part of the price, without my knowledge?

Thirdly, what happens when the manufacturer gets liquidated? and the new owner decides that I need a subscription to use the device effectively either bricking it or raping me. Like we saw with Futurehome https://newsletter.openhomefoundation.org/you-dont-own-it-if-they-can-break-it/

Or what about when the manufacturer decides that they don't like you and decides to snuff your account? Like amazon did when a driver https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/amazon-customer-claims-company-locked-him-out-smart-home-devices-over-bogus-racism-allegations sure, if you're abusive towards staff, then by all means act on it. But lockjng people out of their smart home, without giving them a chance to respond to the accusations first?

I swear I took my ADHD meds this morning, I don't know why I get so riled up by this. But please understand, that I have had to take a conscious decision to stop ranting on.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The same people are dropping their jaws when their car has a big-ass tablet in the middle of the dashboard instead of physical buttons.

You have to find the controls for windshield wiper’s speed 3 submenus deep, but it looks so modern and cool!

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

That's the reason I don't drive a VW ID3. I wanted one, I really really wanted one. But during my test drive, I got a 10s timeout from the display, for apparently tapping too fast while trying to adjust the AC, WTF? And don't get me started on the stupid mood lighting.

Too bad, it was in my price range, rear wheel drive, 236hp and a decent range. And there's soo many of them on the roads in my country that spare parts wouldn't be an issue.

Luckily it looks like some car manufactures have decided to ditch the ginormous look-at-me-I'm-just-like-a-tesla touch-screens. Kia, hyundai and VW at least according to https://www.slashgear.com/1995254/major-automakers-removing-touch-screen-dashboards/

[–] kossa@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But with all the shit I need to control in my car, how would we fit all the physical buttons?

Like, if I need to contain the warp core and reroute auxiliary power to medical while applying a new shield matrix because I am facing off some unexplained space deity. How is that supposed to work with buttons?

[–] greybeard@feddit.online 1 points 19 hours ago

Have you tried using crystals instead of touch screens? If it was good enough for Kirk it's good enough for Janeway.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or maybe just go and get some more rinse aid in the way home.... You don't need to jump to rediculous conclusions.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're all different, I do realize that, but I don't do just-in-time delivery for my household products. I'll buy a couple of bottles of rinse aid, and once the last bottle is empty I put it on the grocery list.

I don't need to know that the dishwasher has run out, I'll deal with it when I see it.

And do not tell me where to jump or not 😀 I'll jump in front/on top/behind of ridiculous conclusions if I please /s

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

In my defense I only said you maybe don't NEED to. If it satisfies your soul in ways I can't possibly understand that entirely up to you lol

I have awful acid reflux and have an adjustable bed frame. Having the top half slightly raised is a life saver since I can raise it for worse reflux and lower it for better sleep. I just use a remote, though. Doing it on an app through the internet is just stupid.