this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2025
59 points (94.0% liked)
Selfhosted
59999 readers
423 users here now
A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.
Rules:
-
Be civil: we're here to support and learn from one another. Insults won't be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.
-
No spam.
-
Posts here are to be centered around self-hosting. Please ensure it is clear in your post how it relates to self-hosting.
-
Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or git here. Just post the link for folks to click.
-
Submission headline should match the article title.
-
No trolling.
Resources:
- selfh.st Newsletter and index of selfhosted software and apps
- awesome-selfhosted software
- awesome-sysadmin resources
- Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting
Any issues on the community? Report it using the report flag.
Questions? DM the mods!
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Never used it nor never will, I want my infra to be as independant as possible, and also fuck internet centralisation and fuck corpos
So I've done public DNS zone hosting and you can use let's encrypt for certs and such, but
Basically, cloudflare is free, and i get all that. If I find another place better, I'm open to jumping ship.
Not trying to get into a pissing contest, or twist your arm into anything...however, honest question: What do you consider your ISP? Centralized or no? I mean, there are only around 10 to 15 major Tier-1 backbone ISPs that I know of, everyone else contracts with them. There are about 12–14 true Tier-1 backbone providers that form the core of the global Internet, and a few dozen additional very large backbone networks (Tier 2) that also carry massive amounts of international internet traffic.
Yes, and in fact I am collaborating in a neighborhood project for the implementation of a local ISP. Obviously you are right, with the way the internet is built it is inevitable to depend on some centralized systems out of reach, I cannot lay a submarible cable xD. But other than in cases of absolute need, where there is really no alternative, I want an internet more like it was before I was born, just people communicating using local infra, not Internet Monsantos
I'm 71, so I was virtually there when they flipped the switch, and I was, to say the least, addicted. I've had a lifelong romance with technology. Yes, it was much simpler then, not a whole lot going on really. A few BBS, ASCII porn, then Geocities...lol what was that? However, I look at what we have now, and what we had then, and personally think the things I liked about the olden days are far outweighed by what we have in 2025.
The reason I asked is because it just seemed like such an absolutist thing to say. I've rarely found life to be that absolute. Life is a series of concessions and amalgamations of compromise. Unless you're willing to go live in an isolated cabin in the woods, devoid of any technology, I don't see how you can avoid those concessions and compromises. One has their core values and beliefs yes, yet one must be flexible lest life snaps you off at the knees.
Congratulations of the local ISP collaboration. I've read some on the topic and that is way more capital than I have, and far too many aggravations than I would want to take on. Wish you the best with your endeavors.
What would you recommend for someone wanting the same?