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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 day ago (7 children)

As always, the article primarily gives the view as seen from Israel, Tel Aviv; But where is the view from Iran?

[–] nimisnimi@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (14 children)

You haven't seen people singing from their balconies during the night time: "death to khamenei!", have you?

That's the view from Iran. Do you accept the reality though... 💁

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[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 2 points 1 day ago

Probably Tehran

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] hoss@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh man it's gonna be a good day when Israel falls.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (30 children)

This website is collectively completely deluded. Every thread on this topic I see people (I’m assuming tankies and/or actual Hamas supporters) fantasizing about Iran destroying Israel with is… just laughable from an objective PoV.

I despise the Israeli government but regardless of my feelings towards them, their military is so much more advanced than Iran's, it’s not even comparable. And they have the backstop of a US carrier group, in case something does go wrong.

Unfortunately it’s all feelings and no facts on this website. Makes it really hard to actually engage with people.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 28 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I know nothing about defense and everything I learned, I did so at NCD, but doesn't Iran have like 88 million people and Israel just 9 million, and Iran has like six times Israel's active personnel? Iirc they're one of the largest armies in ME.

Then again, just by sheer numbers Russia was supposed to overrun Ukraine, 1M dead later and they're still where they started plus few towns charred to the bone.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Perhaps this map will help:

To get from Iran to Israel, the Iranian soldiers would have to cross Iraq (and Jordan) or Syria, both very unfriendly countries full of mountainous terrain. Not a viable ground invasion whatsoever!

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[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Iran's standing forces are kind of irrelevant without a way to get them to Israel.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Iran has many remote areas that are populated. Their military equipment is decades behind, and Israel gets all their equipment from the US.

The comparison here is very stark; in a single strike Israel managed to cripple Iran's nuclear program, kill a lot of leadership that has been around since their revolution, and completely eradicate all of their radar and early warning systems on the West side of the country.

The best response Iran has? Just over 100 drones. Most of them got shot down before they even reached Israel.

Israel gets a free pass on bullying anyone they see fit in the Middle East.

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[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Iran has 82 million inhabitants.

The amount of people willing to die for this regime is much much smaller. 16% are Azerí, 10% Kurds and 2% Balochi, all groups who would rather die than fight for the IRI. Not that this would stop the IRI from pressing 15 year olds into service, but there wouldn't be many volunteers.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

They don't have to like the Iranian government to want to fight against Israel attacking them

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

You are delusional that most iranians won't defend their country just because the regime is evil

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They didn't say Iran was going to singlehandedly do it

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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 18 points 1 day ago (10 children)

It's not just their total disconnect from history (were they born yesterday?), it's their translating scorn for Israel's actions in the region to mean that Israel's opponents must be the good guys.

Iran has been under the control of two different mullahs for the last 45 years. Just because the Shah was bad doesn't make the Ayatollahs good.

Hamas and Hezbollah are literally terrorist organizations, and Hamas holds onto power in Gaza by oppression and violence. If they both weren't getting massive support from Iran, there might be a negotiating partner for Israel in Palestine like Arafat was.

Without Iran's support, Russia would be failing much faster in Ukraine as well.

[–] OutForARip@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago

Israel is literally a terrorist country.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Iran has been under the control of two different mullahs for the last 45 years.

And to gain that control, they blatantly lied in 1979 and told everyone they supported democracy and would not be involved in government. They KNEW that people wanted freedom and democracy and so they just lied about it to gain control.

Without Iran’s support, Russia would be failing much faster in Ukraine as well.

One good thing about this is that Iran will have much fewer drones left to give to Putin to kill Ukranians.

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

"terrorist organizations" by the designation of countries who currently commit or support the committment of genocide. Of course states and their militaries committing acts of terror somehow don't end in a designation as "terrorist organizations"

Meanwhile Israel is arming gangs with ISIS ties in Gaza to pillage humanitarian aid, while the Hamas "terrorists" try to defend that aid.

However none of the states that designate Hamas as "terrorist organization" will give Israel consequences for being a "terrorist supporter" despite arming "terrorists" with ISIS ties. ISIS that has committed terror attacks in the countries allied to Israel, which neither Hamas nor Hezbollah have done.

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[–] net00@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah the entire discourse about this conflict here is even more stupider than on reddit

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[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The title suggest that Israel's bombing in the first place was New Hope?

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[–] OutForARip@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (30 children)

I doubt they can beat the US, but I hope Iran wins.

Terrorists like Israel need to be eliminated.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (48 children)

Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?

Just because Israel are horrible, doesn't automatically make the people they're fighting the good guys.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Honestly no but if I lived in a country or bloc without nukes myself I'd want my government to get them because its the only way to not get randomly regime changed whenever the US, UK or Russia feels like it. Totally understandable why they would want them.

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[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Give me whatever it is you're smoking cause it's probably a helluva drug.

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