Not surprising. After living for ten years in the US, I would say that Americans are among the worst drivers in any developed country. Really awful behaviour all around.
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In my US state of Texas, speed studies set the speed limit based on a 85th percentile rule. They assume that people will basically ignore the speed limit and drive the speed they feel is safe. That's why we have highways with 85 mph speed limits.
https://www.txdot.gov/safety/driving-laws/speed-limits/speed-zone-studies.html
That's not a bad strategy. Driving slowly on slow roads or in adverse conditions and fast on highways seems rational to me. What is the point of making a road that is specifically designed for high speed and then putting a limit on it? The speed limit is an incredibly blunt instrument for deterring bad driving, as if driving below the limit is always going to be the safest option. It also motivates law enforcement abuse. The vehicle-environment-driver complex is much more nuanced than a single variable threshold.
That's always been my thoughts on the matter. Don't enforce speed. Enforce proper lane usage and following distance.
That and modify the road, don't expect all the drivers to change their subconscious behaviors
It can be as simple as paint - people will go the speed they feel is appropriate, threat of punishment won't effectively change their behavior. If the road looks smaller than it is or seems to narrow around intersections, people just drive slower
Cheap, easy, science based.
What is the point of making a road that is specifically designed for high speed and then putting a limit on it?
Because once you get within an hour and a half of a major city, you've got hundreds of suburbs feeding into it with everyday commuters trying to drive along side people out there driving like it's GTA.
The only places where it's actually 85 are places where the air lift won't make it to the hospital in time.
I've got my problems with Texas' infrastructure but removing speed limits wouldn't help.
I don't think I'm autistic. But it tickles my brain that the speed limit is one USian law that is designed to NOT be followed literally.
If it were, it would be trivial to use automatic toll reader cameras to give everyone who speeds a ticket. They have a time stamp when you enter the toll road. They have a time stamp when you exit. They can calculate mathematically that if your average speed is higher than the limit, you broke the speed limit.
But they don't do this, because society does NOT believe in following this specific law (speed limits)... because why exactly?
There is an unwritten rule in society that the speed limit law is not meant to be followed literally?
I hate it.
There's lots and lots of laws like that
Like perjury. It's almost never pursued, the judge will just order your testimony ignored
Or paying your taxes. You're basically expected to do your best to cheat, especially if you're a corporation
Another factor that hasn't been mentioned yet is it gives cops pretty unilateral right to pull you over if they feel like it. IANAL, but in many places it's illegal for a cop to pull you over just for "being suspicious", but because of speeding and various other traffic laws on the books that are almost universally ignored, they can pull you over for speeding, then decide you seem suspicious and search your car, breathalyze you, etc.
If that happened people would avoid toll roads which means there won't be enough toll income.
The other aspect is that we typically are against automated enforcement regardless of the law.
We typically want people to be in the loop. If there were more visible traffic cops, people tend to slow down to the limit.
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There are plenty of stories in our folklore of times people sped 100+ just to get to the emergency room on time.
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Depends on where. I’m going the speed limit through town or less where there are people. It saves lives.
But highways are built for fast driving and cars continue to get safer and more performant. Fuck the speed limit set for 1970’s death traps and hasn’t changed.
The real problem as always is local roads designed like highways. Stroads seem to be one of the underrated evils of modern society
Cars might have gotten better, but a lot of highways haven't been improved enough for those higher speeds. For example, there's a lot of on ramps in older cities with very short merge zones, and you need to hammer the throttle and pray that there's a spot for you by the time you hit the end.
This is especially true if the person in front of you refuses to accelerate to highway speeds to merge safely, simply hoping that people will be nice enough to let them in.
There's one near me where I've almost been in accidents just about every time I use it.
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Driving school and being pulled over has taught me that the silly numbers are not the maximum speed, theyre the minimum speed, and the actual maximum is 5-10 higher depending on what other people are doing. "Going with the speed of traffic and going fast enough to prevent lane changes" is the real answer.
Ive begun going the exact speed limit in the right lane and ive been pulled over 3 times now and experienced more roadrage than i thought possible. I never got pulled over going 90 in a 70, or 30 in a 25, or 45 in a 35.
People are in such a hurry to save 0-30 seconds on their 15 minute drive
Can you tell these stories? I didn't think cops would pull you over for going the speed limit in the right lane.
My mother-in-law has been pulled over for doing the speed limit three times in her life. Each time given a warning and told by the cops she's making everyone else less safe.
You get pulled over for impeeding traffic, it's pretty rare to get a ticket and would fail in court. Usually it's a warning. A waste of tax dollars.
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