What happened with Proton?
this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2026
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I selfhost Stalwart for incoming mail with the free SMTP2GO tier for outgoing mail. This is for my personal email that I currently don't use for anything. I use gmail for signing up for stuff because I've been using it for a very long time and haven't picked an alternative setup yet for handling signing up to stuff with a different email. I also use Zoho mail for more important things like banking. Zoho makes its money from enterprise subscriptions and I frankly trust it more than Proton to not enshittify short or long term.
I am quite happy with hetzner storage share (their support is just amazingly fast!) and I am using posteo for email for more than a decade now. Easy, no bullshit, great spam filters.. well worth 1€ a month.. prices havent changed either since I started.. bonus for hetzner.. you can just leave.. nextcloud has multiple good hoster and if the service sucks.. just go to the best available...
I use migadu. It's the closest you can come to running your own mail server without rubbing your own mail server. You must bring your own domains and you can create as many different mailboxes as you want.
Check out purelymail. Similar to Migadu, but cheaper.
I needed email for more than one domain, and proton just became too pricey.
I've been on purelymail since. No fancy encryption at rest and proprietary clients. Just cheap simple e-mail.
The arbitrary limit on the number of domains is what made me stop using Proton; I use mailbox.org now and haven't had any issues with it
Check out Infomaniak, they seem to make good on Proton's promises.
Looked good until they advertise their Video Conferencing as secure, and then the fine print at the end says end-to-end encrypted calls is off by default.
That's not like proton or mega, where it's not possible for you to make a call that lacks end to end encryption.
Makes me loose trust in them.
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I changed to Nord last night for VPN service. I had heard a lot of good things about Mullvad, but an article I read showcased some speed comparisons where Nord was typically 2-4x faster. So far so good but it’s been less than 24h.
Bruh isn't Nord Israeli?
Edit: it isn't but it's still one of the worst VPNs out there for privacy as they keep logs
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I'm hosting my own 🤷🏼♀️
Have been for some years actually. Has been great so far. E2E isn't really a thing with emails anyways, unless you do PGP encryption and signing, which you should be able to do with any half-competent client, including when hosting your own.
Idk. I get it's not for everyone.
Same. Been using docker-mail-server and it works great.