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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 308 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The infuriating part of the Google enshittification process is that there is absolutely nothing the user can do about it.

Literally the only thing that motivates Google is profit. Controlling side-loaded apps will almost certainly boost their profits by a infinitesimal fraction of a percent, therefore it will be done. Even if consumer uproar causes Google to back down in the short term, they'll simply implement this a few months later. Late-stage Capitalism sucks.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 161 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (54 children)

You can stop using all Google products. Now I understand their market share on the web means they’re going to continue to shape the web.

But make no mistake. There is something, however small, that you can do. De-Google.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (49 children)

I will help hand hold anyone who wants to build servers or services (to the best of my ability) to replace Google services with their own.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (10 children)

You can stop using all Google products.

My public school -- that my children are basically required by law to attend, remember -- is badgering me to sign a consent form so they can have Chromebooks.

This fight is a lot fucking larger than mere individual boycotts!

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)

And my kids school requires every parent to have a Google account to track progress and share information.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (6 children)

De-Google

The complaint is side loading is being restricted and the only long term alternative Apple. Google already began the process of shutting down Graphene by cutting drivers out of AOSP.

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-not-killing-aosp-3566882/

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You can stop using all Google products.

That may be true for you, but other people face different realities. When Google implements the sideloading block it will eventually be pushed to everyone who doesn't use a custom ROM.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 125 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Its about time an open standard happened for mobile OSes.

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 93 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That's what Android was and they keep trying to undo that any way they can

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

We need a new one that isn't made by a for-profit company that only was good at the beginning to get total market saturation before flipping the enshittification switch to maximize those profits.

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[–] axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

We need open bootloader and drivers for phones to make any real progress on this. Thin is what's holding back all initiatives.

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[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

I don't know about anyone else, but I got into computers at a young age because it gave me a sense of control over something. I didn't understand everything, but I could do a lot of trial and error, read things and experiment, build cool things, and I shared a sense of community with some random internet strangers based on that knowledge.

In a world where we are so powerless in so many other ways, why did we insist on bringing that power dynamic into the new bright tech sphere? Why did we have to do that? (N.B. this is rhetorical questioning).

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the new Alien Earth TV show, 5 corporations basically run everything.. unfortunately I suspect thats where we are headed as a species.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are at least two generations of us who are disappointed at the contrast between tech's possibilities as envisioned decades ago and the corporate surveillance crap we have to put up with today.

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[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 73 points 1 week ago (4 children)

When reading cyberpunk lore, quickhacks didn't make any sense to me. Some programs that break cyberware because of backdoors, but why would people install cyberware with backdoors?

Now I look at the sad state of mobile market and, yeah ok, that makes sense.

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[–] FreddyNO@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Easily the most disgusting company in the planet and it’s funny that their old motto/slogan was ”Don’t be evil”.

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[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Are you kidding me? How am I supposed to live in this damn Orwellian society that is coming?

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[–] suodrazah@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (10 children)
[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

IS THAT A FUCKING HEADPHONE JACK!?

Let's go 🔥🔥🔥

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The EU's been breathing down Apple's neck for them trying to do similar shit, so i find the timing kinda weird.
Plus they'd need to force-update their spyware first, i wonder how many versions of android they're willing to go back.

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[–] thespawnkiller@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel like this is the new normal cycle of every software company. Once they become a leader, it's never enough. It replicates the rise of billionaires. Just as the billionaires being rich beyond anything they and all of their succeeding generations could ever spend is not enough, being the industry leader and producing an amazing product that people want is somehow not enough. It always turns to control and power.

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[–] generator@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they just want to confirm a malicious actor didn’t develop it

So Newpipe, SmartTube, Nintendo emulators...

Clones of opensource apps bundled with ads that violates license is OK, but restricting everyone to build and test apps from source so it can test new features and report any issues is too risky for the user

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[–] flemtone@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (44 children)

Already using GrapheneOs on my phone, so fuck Google.

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Wait until Google locks the bootloader.

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[–] bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (5 children)

now it's just a race for the giant conglomerates to make the worst decisions for consumers

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (15 children)

As shitty as M$ is, it would have been nice to see Windows phone become moderately successful and be a third primary mobile os.

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[–] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 37 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I came here specifically to ask about alternatives to Android now that google is becoming too abusive in the relationship.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And they can suckle upon my peener.

I'll go to Graphine or something else before I let the company for whom "don't be evil" was too bold a statement dictate my fuckin' choices.

I already ditched Windows. Can't be that hard to cut Google out too.

[–] traceur301@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Graphene has locked itself to google hardware, and google can cripple them at any point by stopping bootloader unlocks. We need to go deeper, or aim higher as it were

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[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 34 points 1 week ago (5 children)
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[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I’m bothered that big companies, especially tech right now, no longer see their customers as people they need to please to stay in business, but instead as something they’ll inconvenience and squeeze as much as they can possibly get away with.

They all got to where they are making, at one point, amazing products. Now? Fuck making windows useful, we can throw ads and AI at you every place we can think of. Fuck all of the parts of Android that made it stand out, we tell you what to install. You don’t want all of your data scraped and sold? Fuck you, there’s 3 of us and we’re all doing it. In fact we’ll never stop finding new ways to harvest data.

Phones have basically stagnated entirely in the US. Sure you get moderately better chipsets, but what else? AI? I haven’t had a phone struggle with anything in… maybe 10 years. Instead features that people didn’t use enough just get removed.

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[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Year of the Linux phone, I guess.

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