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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I have a feeling, that Windows 12 PCs will be just glorified smartphones with voice control as the default.

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[–] FreedomAdvocate 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

Microsoft are smart enough to not piss off every giant corporation and destroy their entire business overnight, so you can count on it never being forced by them.

[–] staph@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago (6 children)

This kind of stuff never happens overnight. It happens slowly, incrementally, and the people are never mad enough at too much sudden change to be motivated enough to do anything. People should feel good about the imposition of boundaries, and it helps that for the average user, the boundaries often result in a better user experience.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Last time I used windows in a big corpo settings, there were so many things pudding off both us Devs but also IT.

Switch out a bad RAM stick? Spend an hour with IT.

Use a software? Spend an hour (or days) with IT

Compile your own software? Believe it or not, spend large amounts of time with IT

Like the compiler on a windows PC can't work without different windows protection systems gets in the way, repeatedly. And then your executable, or some .d'll just get wiped off the disk 😐🤷🏼‍♀️

I don't think they do it intentionally, but big corpos don't give a shit about their workers conditions, so if they were to enforce things (with backdoors ofc, so that if needed you can deactivate things, remember the unique installation code for windows like 95 or 98?) the grunts will just have to eat it up. And they would probably not have a much harder time, everything is already locked down hardware wise so they are used to all that jazz.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (5 children)

It's almost already like this. In my country every single bank reinvented the wheel by creating a single purpose app which does what aegis does (otp generation from a seed) but with some bits changed (one for example "encrypted" the seed with ROT13) and with draconian measures like bootloader must be locked, adb must be disabled, and are using literal exploits to see if you have "forbidden" directories on /sdcard like/sdcard/magisk even if no file access is granted

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[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Such pcs already exist and are used by buinesses and schools all over... Mostly chromebooks and i suppose apple also fits that criteria.

But it would be very hard to stop a determined hacker who has physical access to a device and doesnt mind voiding any warranties or user agreements.

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[–] chocrates@piefed.world 21 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Linux on the phone has come a long way I hear. I have been meaning to buy one and see if it can be my daily driver. Google being shitty would definitely push me there

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Fortunately, Microsoft is too incompetent to pull this off on Windows.

They tried. See the metro app push in Windows 8+. But it’s kind of incredible how much they bungled it; even now, it would be totally dysfunctional with Win32 apps locked down.

And if Windows doesn’t do it, hardware makers aren’t really interested in that sort of thing.


Stuff like SteamOS does worry me a tiny bit. It’s obviously fine now, but I can see a future where, say, Valve (or any hardware seller with some kind of successful storefront) starts to not like rising competition on their own stuff.

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[–] Unlocking_Freedom@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Linux is quite well established now on home pc's and servers to the dismay of Microsoft and Apple. I hated Secureboot , built into UEFI, during startup by verifying the digital signatures of firmware, drivers, and the OS bootloader. Reading into Deep State Mass surveillance helps:

https://www.printernational.co.uk/timmann/history.htm#surveillance

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[–] localhorst@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

https://youtu.be/HUEvRyemKSg might be relevant.

Turns out some people can predict the future if they pay attention

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 17 points 5 days ago

It'll just be another day for apple users.

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Absolutely not, that would never happen. Why? Because there's a load of stuff that runs on Windows that is ancient and only exists as legacy software and never receives updates.

If anything, Windows is the last operating system that will have locked bootloaders, because if they do, there's gonna be some bank somewhere in the world suing them because their ancient counting software was originally made for Windows 3.0 back in the day and Microsoft has had to build their entire operating system around making sure that software continues to run.

They might have hardware requirements like the TPM chip, but they're never going to make it so you can only install software approved by them, because they've got over 40 years of software they'd need to approve before they can do that, and they won't.

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