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Rebecca Joynes is currently serving a six and a half year prison sentence

A teacher who was convicted for having sex with two boys, becoming pregnant by one, has been banned from the profession.

Maths teacher Rebecca Joynes, 31, was jailed for six and a half years in July last year after being found guilty of six counts of sexual activity with a child, after sleeping with one pupil before falling pregnant by a second while on police bail.

The Teaching Regulation Agency (TRA) convened earlier this month via a virtual hearing, which Joynes did not attend, to consider her professional conduct. A panel recommended she be banned from teaching.

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[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 276 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Rape. She raped those boys. Use the correct terminology.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 88 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Legally speaking women cannot be rapists in the UK at least from what I remember.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 84 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dunno. I almost think there should be a different term or word for it. I'm not saying it's OK at all, I just think bundling so many sexual crimes under one name isn't great.

For example; I was a horny teen and probably would have been into a teacher like that. It would have been wrong and it likely would have messed up different aspects of my life. I'm not condoning it or trying to downplaying it, but I feel if I had been violently been penetrated against my will by a male teacher the trauma would be a whole different kind.

So yeah, I don't know if we should call it rape, but I recognize the boys were underage and taken advantage of, and the crime absolutely deserves to be punished. I'm also the person who get's all worked up by modern loose usage WMD and many others, so I know I can be a handful.

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Maybe that young girl wanted to have sex with an older man? Maybe there was no force involved at all?

NOOOOOO!!! RAPE IS RAPE! SIMPLE AS THAT!

I get that you want to separate sex by force from sex by free will but when it comes to kids there can never be consent and it defaults to rape. It should not be minimized just because a female teacher raped young boys.

Edit: If you want a different definition for what happens to someone being forced or not you could call it rape with assault or rape with {whatever}. I don't think the rape part should be minimized in any way. Just extended in brutality if anything.

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[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They define rape as penetration

Good news is she did seem to actually be punished with a sizable prison sentence (by uk standards)

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

She got pregnant, so I'm pretty sure there was penetration

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[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Do I look like I give a fuck what the law says? They were underage, ergo could not give consent, ergo it was rape. Also power dynamics teacher pupil makes it even more rapey

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 91 points 2 days ago (7 children)

In the UK, the definition of rape requires penetration from the offending party by their genitalia. So unless the teacher has a monster clit she used to anally penetrate the boys, the definition of rape can't apply. For that there's the broader definition of sexual assault.

Journalists, since their purpose is to serve the public with the truth, have to really carefully choose their words as using the wrong legal term can get them in hot water - libel lawsuits and such, not to mention accusations of trying to shape the public's opinion, and so on.

So yeah, you'll rarely find directly said out statements in the news as most journos will try to get to as close to the definition as possible without exposing themselves to legal action. That's why you'll often see e.g. statements like "the purported killer" even if there's clear evidence of the person being the murderer, simply because the case hasn't been judged yet therefore the legal term murderer - which requires a conviction - cannot be applied, and using it before the trial even happens is a big no-no.

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with you that if it was a man with two young girls, the article would be going on the offensive much quicker, and even here they should've used the term "sexually assaulted" instead of "had sex with", but specifically the term rape cannot apply here.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for the informative reply. As a layman in another country who isn't worried about specific local laws, I'd like to add that she raped at least two children.

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[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 day ago

Do I look like I give a fuck what the law says? They were underage,

Blatantly, by the very next words.

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[–] 1uddy@lemmings.world 12 points 1 day ago

Dang.

They're all going to learn that society doesn't give a damn about them.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

I would like to welcome Rebecca Joyner to her future career in the Trump administration.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 134 points 2 days ago (2 children)

falling pregnant by a second while on police bail.

She really can't stop fucking kids, can she?

Maybe she has a future in US government

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 50 points 2 days ago (4 children)

US Government? She's already in the UK, why would she leave a Pro League to go an Amatuer one?

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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 32 points 2 days ago

falling pregnant

I always find this expression incredibly strange.

Obligatory
south park detective: nice.

[–] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 97 points 2 days ago (14 children)

She forgot to be a billionaire

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So now the administration just needs to pardon her and make her Secretary of Education. Causes that's fucking on brand for this shit show.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 30 points 1 day ago (5 children)

They'd struggle to pardon someone in the UK.

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[–] Mihies@programming.dev 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She is an amateur. She should just say that she didn't know them and it's certainly a democrats conspiracy.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Paedophile teacher who raped two boys is struck off

Edit: at least six rape apologists didn't appreciate my headline correction.

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