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[–] Ontimp@feddit.org 11 points 1 hour ago

I have high hopes for the Digital Euro.

To have a digital payment medium that is issued by the central bank and can be exchanged without fees as a 1:1 digital equipment of cash would be amazing and go beyond just replacing American credit card providers.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 21 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

We’ve had Twint for over a decade in Switzerland and it’s adopted everywhere here, I have no idea why every country is cooking their own new system right now.

Pick one that works already and roll it out on the whole continent, it’s not that hard.

[–] dello_iv@piefed.social 1 points 17 minutes ago (1 children)

Isn't Twint still going through Visa for the in-store purchase? I remember reading it somewhere, but can't find the source for it unfortunately, but in general whenever it is an option I prefer that over other means of payment, the only strange thing is having a separate twint app for each bank lol

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 1 points 10 minutes ago

Nope, Twint is connected directly to your Bank. Neither Visa, nor Mastercard nor anyone else is playing middleman. Every Swiss Bank has their own Twint App which directly connects to your account.

When you pay at a store or person to person with Twint it’s a direct transaction.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

That's Wero. It's basically iDEAL in a new jacket.

[–] broom@piefed.social 8 points 2 hours ago

And iDEAL is really good. Everyone in the Netherlands uses it.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 hours ago

Apparently owned by PEPSI 🀭

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Because Switzerland is not in the EU and the ECB won't let that happen. They'd rather have the yanks ripping them off than allow real competition.

Protectionism sucks.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 38 seconds ago

I'm pretty sure it's Switzerland that doesn't want to join the EU and not the other way around

[–] NorskSud@lemmy.pt 2 points 2 hours ago

Other countries also have their own systems since long.. MBway in Portugal is also more than a decade old.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 5 points 1 hour ago

Taiwan let's you use your metro card to buy stuff at 711. Seems reasonable to expand that out

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 hours ago

You would be helping the world by doing this. Until the huge corporations start hurting, he will keep getting away with most of his shit.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 14 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Isn't that what WERU is all about; "The service competes with PayPal, credit cards and similar services. "?

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's WERO and afaik they don't issue cards. If you want to make in-store payments you're stuck with visa of mastercard.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

visa of mastercard.

If I understand correctly that will be all phased out. #e quote

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I just edited my comment for clarity.

[–] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Portugal already has their own payment processor, even started being exported to Romania

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 21 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

We need a cross-EU one. WERO and Gnu Taler seem like the best candidates. Honestly, Gnu Taler will probably be ignored because banks can't take advantage by invading privacy.

[–] Strawberry@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Gnu Taler seems really interesting, if the trial in Switzerland goes well it might have a chance. I'm still hopeful we can have nice things.

[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I’d actually rather see many federated solutions with cross-EU interoperability instead of making yet another payment monopoly

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Isn't WERO built aroung SEPA Instant Credit Transfer?

[–] cadekat@pawb.social 4 points 2 hours ago

Huh, Taler sounds interesting. How does it prevent doublespends?

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why not both? Monopolies for banking aren't a great idea.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 7 points 2 hours ago

Wasn’t that already explained?

Honestly, Gnu Taler will probably be ignored because banks can't take advantage by invading privacy.

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

They already have it, Gnu Taler.