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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Supporting genocide is not fucking "minutia."

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Should the DNC have run a better candidate? Yes!

Was Harris a dream president? No!

Would she have been better than Trump? Undoubtedly!

Should people have voted for her? Yes, if you oppose Trump’s fascism. But no, if you don’t really care about your fellow citizens who may be at risk for deportation/prosecution/dehumanization.

Harris and the DNC would’ve been a bit more amenable to the popular opinion than trump and the GQP have ever been. So after her election, people could have protested in Washington dc against Israel’s genocide and have found a listening ear in Congress.

You shouldn’t base your presidential vote purely on one single issue. Especially not if it’s a foreign affairs issue, which is what the Israeli genocide in Palestine is. You need to look at the much broader picture. Look at the other policies and ideas that both candidates have.

We knew about trumps desire to hurt his political enemies, we knew about his hatred for trans people, we knew about his desire to deport immigrant, before he got elected. So you could have based your vote on that.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And what you just described is the exact process by which governments descend into tyranny.

The much better way to deal with the issue, if you actually do care about your fellow humans, is to refuse to support a toxic candidate even if they are somewhat less toxic than the alternative, and make sure at every single turn that the blame is placed squarely where it should be - on the foul, loathsome, corrupt and compromised scumbags who arranged for the nomination of a toxic piece of shit candidate in the first place.

Less bad is still bad. If you settle for less bad, the best you'll ever get is that things woll potentially get worse somewhat more slowly than they would otherwise. They'll still inevitably get worse.

If you want things to actually get better, then you have to hold the scumbags' feet to the fire. You have to make sure that it's widely understood that they and they alone are the reason that the best we can hope for is somewhat less bad and things getting worse somewhat more slowly. And you can't do that by meekly going along with them.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And that's how you got trump and actual fascism.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Actually, we got fascism by constantly moving towards it over a span of at least 60 years, with the only difference being that we sometimes moved more quickly towards it and sometimes more slowly.

We moved towards it under Biden too, and would've continued moving towards it under either him or Harris.

The only thing that's notable about Trump as far as that goes is how much he moved us and how quickly. But this was always the destination.

The only way we could've moved away from fascism rather than towards it would've been to elect federal politicians who were actually good instead of just less bad. But we not only haven't been given that choice, but have been indoctrinated into treating less bad as a virtue

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So who would you suggest? Out of all the possible candidates during the last election, who would you suggest people should have voted for?

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

I'll go one better - if the DNC hadn't interfered and fucked us over, the people would have elected Sanders in 2016 and we wouldn't even be having this conversation.