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So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?

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[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Major economic crash or civil war. Or someone whacks Trump, or he croaks. Right now they're trying to speedrun Project 2025 before Trump inevitably keels over.

[–] eightpix@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

None of these things will stop the US. What will is a general strike, a new constitutional convention, and the reconstruction of the nation from the ground up.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Zero shot that a constitutional convention in the near future would be for the better.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 5 days ago

I've been saying since Trump was elected again that the only fucking shot we have is a blue wave so massive that we can shove through amendments and just restructure the entire fucking system from the ground up.

So, we're doomed

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I agree that a general strike could do the trick, but the challenge will be getting almost everyone onboard while still allowing the working class to eat and have shelter. By design, working class Americans have little means of weathering a long term general strike, and the upper class has enough wealth to ignore it unless it's a prolonged effort. A general strike for a few days will not cut it.

It might be "easier" for other countries to start dumping US debt. Not that it's their responsibility to "save" the US, of course. However, if enough debt was dumped, it would collapse the US economy. This is a nuclear option since it would also hurt the global economy, but would certainly hurt the US the most.

[–] eightpix@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah, a whole-country general strike in America would only last a day, two tops. They don't have the wherewithal to be good neighbours and politically aligned against monied interests the way a nation-state that has a deeper, older history can.

The history of America is money, interest, and interested money.

Southern plantations, 17th century land ownership, trade in enslaved persons, ranching, gold prospecting... and war.

War against the Indigenous, the French, the Spanish, the Mexica, the French again, the British, the Bolivarians, themselves, and then everyone else, forever.

The way to defeat America is to end its war-making capacity. Explosions, attacks, weathering, budget restrictions, out-competition, and mutually-assured destruction have all failed as gambits. What remains is to undercut the human element — wounding warriors without wielding deadly force. A loss in military preparedness, a disbelief in the stated mission, a war-weariness.

[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Trump is the entire reason this is working. All of Trump's minions are too incompetent to be able to hold everything from crashing down once he croaks. They have a time limit. They're trying to turn the US into a full blown dictatorship before Trump dies.

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Americans too lazy for a civil war. They are too busy slowly dying to capitlism while blaming trans.