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I think the Taiwanese government would disagree.
If they are part of one China why do they have a separate government?
I think you're showing your lack of knowledge on the subject with this comment.
It's well-known that both governments claim sovereignty over all of China, and both include Taiwan as part of that. Just this is claimed less strongly when the KMT aren't in power.
Many people on the island want the status quo, or independence, but others also want some form of reunification. Opinions are varied.
The official position still is that there is one China. (The government in Taiwan even claims the 9 dash line in the south China sea lol)
They still use an 11 dash line IIRC
I stand corrected, forgot about that detail!
The PRC gave 2 dashes to Vietnam, since it wasn't of such strategic importance once north Vietnam had their revolution and wasn't going to let the west use Vietnam for hostile actions.
This was before the sino-soviet split got weird.
Yeah but everyone knows the official position is bullshit.
Do you understand the difference between De Jure and De Facto? Maybe look up what those means because you're showing a lack of knowledge of how anything works in the world.
Taiwan is de jure a part of China but it is a de facto an independent country. China has an authoritarian government that gets butt hurt over every little thing. So the One China policy is all about them "saving face".
Maybe read up on strategic ambiguity as well if you want to be more knowledgeable about the subject.
TLDR, Taiwan is a country. A lot of diplomacy is about piling on layers upon layers of bullshit, because bullshit is preferable to war. But unless you're working for a country as a diplomat, there's no need for bullshit... Taiwan is a country.
This whole comment is strawmanning me.
Yes.
Yes, but more accurately, the official government position in Taiwan, that there is one China and they're the legitimate government, is a historical hangover. The One China policy from the mainland is also a historical hangover, difference is that because they have the bigger stick now, they reckon they can take over, by force or political/economic coercion.
I don't disagree with you that the mainland government is authoritarian.
You're really just reading what you want to read to be able to call me an idiot. I am aware of what this is, and didn't mention it in my comment because the original comment was specifically about Taiwanese claims on mainland China. Not writing a holistic comment on everything.
This is the reason you've strawmanned me, because you're ready to fight with anyone who says it's not a country which I never said. I tend to agree that Taiwan is a country. It's got its own government, and its own territory and existed that way for decades. But that's just my opinion, and because of history the status IS UNDETERMINED because part of the current definition of being a country is that other COUNTRIES recognise you as a country. Again, I also believe it functions de facto as it's own country - don't get triggered.
The people in Taiwan have far more democratic freedom than in the mainland (in my view) - well, with the caveat is that capitalism is inherently undemocratic.
All I originally said was that the official ROC government position is that there is one China, and Taiwan is part of China, that the government in Taiwan claims to be the legitimate government of. This is a statement of fact, not my opinion...
That, and that OPINIONS OF THE PEOPLE THERE VARY. Trying to paint them as a monolith is propaganda.
Yikes... Please chill before you decide to strawman someone who isn't even arguing against you.
They say they don't - the rest of China does.
There are many Special Administrative regions of China like Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan. They are still China.
I’m pretty sure Taiwan doesn’t think they’re the same China as the mainland.
The government of Taiwan claims all of China. Taiwan absolutely thinks it's China.
Okay bud.