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So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Nobody can outright militarily like, pull off assasinating the entire executive branch, which is basically what you'd need at this point, to actually stop this... bare minimum.

But what you can do is hasten our ongoing societal collapse untill we actually get to something like a Syria civil war scenario.

And how do you do that?

Well, you take advantage of our dogshit cybersecurity we have around lots of government systems and critical infrastrucure, which has surely been made much more secure with the recent drive to install highly exploitable LLMs everywhere they will fit... oh and I'm sure the experts at DOGE didn't leave any gaping exposed holes in anything...

And so anyway, you just turn off as much electricty and power and communications (yes that means the internet) as you possibly can, in a way that will keep them down for as long as possible and make it as difficult as possible to repair.

At that point, probably a good portion of the US collapses into complete fucking chaos within a week.

That chaos probably necessitates a reconfiguration of our global and domestic military deployments, and it fucks up our military logistics by way of basically destroying the economy.

Have that kind of a scenario play out?

Well, a whole lot of other major militaries are going to have a bit more of a free hand to do as they please, as we would be in utter disarray.

You don't even need to nuke us, not even high altitude EMP us, that's overkill, not necessary.

You just need to conduct the most extensive and most unauthorized cybersec pentest in the history of the planet, and we'll be dealing with bug reports for the rest of the century.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

There are more kinds of power than electricity generated by power plants, conveyed via powerlines.

Gasoline, diesel, natural gas, jet fuel... all have to get piped or trucked around, on regular schedules, otherwise a whole lotta stuff starts to break down rather quickly.

Whole lot of the infrastructure that makes that possible would or could also be seriously messed up by a full scale cyber attack.

... guess I could have said 'fuel', but fuel generally just is stored power in a condensed liquid or gaseous form, so, meh.