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There is a particular indignity that comes from living in America, derived from the experience of waking up in the morning to see reports that Donald Trump has said something profoundly evil, and then needing to type "truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump" into your web browser to see if he actually said that. Once there, you can see a post in which Trump did indeed threaten to wipe out the entire civilization of Iran, stacked on top of an ad for a sketchy herbal supplement of some sort:

A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen, WHO KNOWS? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the World. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death, will finally end. God Bless the Great People of Iran!

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[โ€“] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

One real danger is that this would legitimize the use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states. Nukes haven't been used since WW2. And the small nukes used then really weren't of much greater scale than the firebombing runs already done en masse in that horrible war. But this would be different. A precedent would be set that a nuclear power, if faced in a drawn out quagmire against a non-nuclear power, could use a nuke to end the conflict. The US nukes Tehran to cut the heart out of Iranian resistance. Russia nukes Kyiv to break the back of Ukraine. China nukes Taipei as the opening move to invading the island.

The US nuking Japan never really established the precedent that such an act is OK. Everyone has just accepted that WW2 was a unique situation, and that using nukes at the end of the worst conflict in human history, one that saw the Holocaust, isn't really out of scale for that conflict. Plus the nukes then were relatively small. But if you lob a hydrogen bomb ten or a hundred times the weapon used to destroy Hiroshima? At a time when your nation is absolutely not in a epochal fight for its survival? That's a completely different situation, a solution to a quagmire of the type that the major nuclear powers have frequently encountered.

[โ€“] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

Too true. The risk of using nuclear weapons at this point isn't triggering M.A.D., but setting a precedent of permissiveness to use them in a war of aggression rather than ad a last-ditch tool for survival, in which case you can kiss Ukraine goodbye the moment we bomb Iran, and if Taiwan doesn't capitulate to China, they will also be a target of preemptive nuclear strikes.

This is the nightmare world that Trump wants.