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[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 105 points 3 days ago (2 children)

To the average person (and this includes politicians, basically anyone not a software engineer developing the tools )who Cory generally writes to try and inform, they are the same.

Should they be? No. But that's a whole different thing and trying to change that in the general public mind doesn't change his current point about AI as the public thinks of it right now.

[–] joe@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Speaking at the level of your target audience is wise, but there is a point where information is not just simplfied, but lost, and I think equating chat bots with AI in the broader sense is past that point. It would be like equating websites with the internet.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think the comparison is acceptable with maybe a terminology clarification in the footnotes, because "AI" is the false term under which this current bullshit is being marketed.

And people who believe the core mechanism in large language models to be AI are so uneducated that they will probably neither understand the distinction to legitimate AI research, nor bother to read footnotes.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's exactly the thing. Those who understand such a footnote don't need it, and those who might learn more from it are unlikely to understand it. The above commenters are simply being pedantic.

Pedantic or AI bros ;) I find this new generation of gullible tech users scary. Recently saw someone voice their disappointment with Codeberg's anto-vibecoding stance, and the person was describing themselves as "tech optimist", which I believe is a great way to self-out as being extremely gullible.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is equating chatbots with AI any different than equating a bunch of if/else statements with AI? Is any of this AI considering none of it involves actual intelligence or informed decision making?

Sure AI is more than LLMs, but those are the face of it in the public's eye and is what's driving these trillion dollar corporate valuations, which then lead to every company on earth declaring that their product is "AI!"

[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 1 points 2 days ago

Yep, most people would not understand Machine Learning or Big Data analysis generally being AI, so just market your product by the sub category and you don't have to deal with the expectancy of GenAI

[–] XLE@piefed.social 9 points 3 days ago

What's lost? I can't think of anything.

Words are meant to convey meaning, and I bet you would lose a lot of non-technical people if you tried to explain the intricacies of what makes large language models worse than content recommendation systems, and doing this would be redundant for technical users.

So Corey can safely use the two words interchangeably and communicate with technical and non-technical alike.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As a non-techie: websites are the internet.

Like, I conceptualize the internet as basically just a giant shared network, but the point of it is the websites (for me).

I apologize to anyone I may have just gravely offended.

[–] joe@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I apologize to anyone I may have just gravely offended.

lol

I don't know how "non-techie" you are, but a good example is online games. When you're playing Fortnite, Roblox, World of Warcraft, etc you're not going to a web page, but you're on the internet.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I straight up almost called it a series of tubes, lol.

Yeah, that’s probably why I do think of it as a shared network, I just don’t play online games, so that’s not what I associate with the internet.

[–] joe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

There are other examples but I take your point.