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[–] Slashme@lemmy.world 99 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I typed into Google "potatoes pressure cooker" to get a reminder of how long to cook them. The AI told me, and correctly said that I should use the steamer sieve, but also told me to salt the water. The water that would be under the potatoes and that wouldn't touch them.

I asked why, and the AI said that little splashes of salt water from the boiling would land on the surface of the potatoes and salt them gently, that the salt would increase the boiling temperature, and that the vapour would be aromatic.

I pointed out that the amount of salt landing on the surface of the potatoes would be negligible, that the vapour is distilled water in gas form, and that the increase in boiling temperature from salting the water is less than 1°C. The AI said, oh yeah, you're right on all counts. Don't salt the water.

What it has been doing was exactly what an LLM does. It gave me the received wisdom from the internet.

That aligns with what Cory Doctorow was saying here, namely that all the AI successes were from people who already knew what they were doing and could use the AI as a tool. Not from people who had no clue and just let AI do the job.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I use google "ai" in when thrifting for audio gear. Minimum 80% of the time it gets something GLARINGLY wrong. "Oh ho ho! You correctly pointed out that I was completely wrong on all counts! An astute observation! Let me try again but this time give you the CORRECT information."

Exactly. I use AI primarily as a natural-language search engine, when searching for things that can quickly be independently verified. One of the best uses for it is when you know a thing probably exists, but you don't know the name for it. You can describe to the LLM the object or problem in detail, and it will give you a name. You can then take that word and do a non-AI search to instantly confirm if it got it right.

I'll never use an AI for something I can't at least verify without an AI.

[–] mild_deviation@programming.dev -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, to be fair, that’s a dirt cheap model you’re talking to, and Google is not exactly at the forefront of any tier of model, cheap or otherwise.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Is that you being fair or is that you rushing to defend something?

As if you don't know these "tools" don't work.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago

It gave me the received wisdom from the internet.

I mean... it gave you the amalgamated wisdom of the internet after a very complex game of telephone.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really like a song that has intro and outro samples and I wanted to know where they were from, so I googled. Google AI promptly informed me that the song has no samples. Guess that settles that.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

My husband was recently trying to find an exact quote from Richard Pryor's character in Lost Highway, so he Googled it.

Google's AI overview said that Richard Pryor was not in Lost Highway and instead gave some suggestions for other films we might be thinking of.

The quote he was trying to remember was, "There's nine people down here, and you can ask seven of them. If you can get that price from one of them, I'll let you ask the other two."

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I do potatoes in my instant pot but leave the water in, it just gets absorbed. So the salt is effective in that case. I salt the potatoes themselves and toss them before adding the water, too, so they should get reasonably seasoned.

Also i use soup stock.

Mashed, though.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Salting the water would increase the boiling temperature I guess, but it seems like a waste of salt because that info isn't meaningfully changing the cooking time

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

That “AI” is a completely dumbed down one with reasoning disabled. Of course it’ll make stuff up.

[–] Ashiette@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Salting the water is relevant when not using a pressure cooker. It makes no sense when you're steaming them in a pressure cooker. AI is a good tool, sometimes. But for everyday tasks, it is irrelevant and often wrong.