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I'm damn sure the answer is "no", but the devs at my workplace are all in on it in a way that's not as absurd on the surface as the "coding is a solved problem" kind of tech bros. There's an emphasis on the "human in the loop" that I think is far from sufficient; we used to have a human in the loop, it's called actually writing your fucking code!

As a sample, this is from a transcript of a recent discussion about AI with some devs on my team:

Me, a senior dev:

To be clear, I'm not saying not to forego the human in the loop. I'm pointing out that there is an inherent contradiction between using agent as our main means of writing code and actually being able to review all of its output -- be it before or after opening the PR. I'm worried that we'll end up in a position that we're expected to do something intractable, if not strictly speaking impossible.

New mid-level dev:

I just think we should still be responsible for reviewing all the output. Like how I see the before vs now is:

  • Before: human plan -> human write -> human review
  • Now: human plan -> claude write -> human review (+ claude review)

And in effect we're just as responsible for reviewing every line of the Al code as we were for reviewing every line of human code. Once that changes that's when the Al slop starts coming out So we should never end up posting a PR where we're like "hey guys claude wrote this so do the thing you do for claude PRs"

Team tech lead:

@AppetiteOfExcess, this is a problem across all dev teams in every industry. It's a huge issue. I think we need to lean on Al to speed up PRs, but how we do that is not well defined yet. I think it can help us get our head around a PR faster. Maybe we need to made an artifact for some PRs that give a breakdown of what is changing. Then we can grill Al once it understands the changes. That might speed things up a bit. The important thing is to really understand the code and the impact of the change.

@mid-level_dev I agree with you but I think the new process will be more like the following

  1. Humans (the whole team) plan by making highly defined stories
  2. Al makes an implementation and test plan
  3. Human reviews plan
  4. Al executes the plan with human oversight at certain steps
  5. Al does a review using /code-review (new context by default)
  6. PR is posted with change overview
  7. Human uses Al to understand the changes and review the code

I don't know how to push back on this while being taken at all seriously. It has me considering that maybe I'm in the wrong for rejecting a tool that is considered useful by all but a few stick in the mud devs, and that those devs will never have a shot at a job again unless they pull their heads out of their asses and join our modern "AI"-driven world.

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[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But most importantly why are they doing managements' job

This bit has been baffling me as of late. Almost all software devs I know have bent over backwards to give businesses what they want. It wasnt even that long ago I was revelling in work from home and basically putting most of my day into MMOs. All ai did was enable the worst of us to bootlick harder in some shallow attempt to gain approval.

My colleagues used to mock me for leaving on time. Like its not even early i have worked my contracted hours and leave and you cant even do that??????? They continue to work 12 hour days and tell me their life feels hollow like yeah no shit

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Could this behavior stem from the job market being total ass? People just trying to hold onto what they have.

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No the job market could be perfect the behaviour would be the same. A lot of software devs have no concept of class consciousness or solidarity and they will absolutely fuck each other over for no good reason or to just look better than someone else.

In my circle all my colleagues are commie adjacent cos I got them all unionised so we back each other up but outside of that group its the hunger games. I guess the upside of this ai crap is a decent chunk of software devs now no longer think theyre immortal against the whims of capital so maybe it will change but Im not seeing that yet. All i see today is the wish to be the last man standing which isnt very useful

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's actually worse in the PMC STEM white collar jobs with low unemployment rates. They haven't been screwed over by management as much so they tend to believe the corpo propaganda. Plus a lot of them are the type to think Elon Musk is a smart "disrupter" or NFTs are a great investment.

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I know several people at work currently who quote Elon. A solid half of the people i work with “invest” in crypto

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

lmao we gotta come up with our own scams to funnel these folks' money to people who need it

[–] AppetiteOfExcess@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My tech lead was genuinely impressed with the flying tesla stunt from a few weeks ago.

I've been wanting to try and get a more "professional" job, but every time I talk to someone about it it sounds like hell.

I'm just gonna deal with the dumb mom and pop bullshit where I'm the only person in the company with any actual computer literacy and get to set all the standards.

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

Live2Work Work2Die coworkers are the worst.