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[–] Master167@lemmy.world 97 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Did they punish the father? Or are they admitting to immaculate conception?

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 78 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't think you're "getting" patriarchal medieval systems of "governance"

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Both sides get the same number of lashes in Islamic law, so that's not what's going on here.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well note they said patriarchal and medieval not Islamic.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You'd be surprised how many Islamic countries are ruled by traditions that do not originate in Islam. Or that are warped from.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just like you'd be shocked what the Bible says about mega-rich pastors. Or what Judaism says about the magic wire around that segment of New York.

For anyone that was never in a religion, basically, people earnestly follow it, but in order for that to be possible, whatever "it" is tends to be flexible. The scriptures, or oral traditions, are reinterpreted however works for the cool, powerful people.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago

It’s also interesting that many religions take on trappings of of the local area. Christianity carrtainly does and Buddhism seems to too.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sure but while Saudi Arabia can get weird sometimes (see: that one time they banned women from driving for God knows what reason) for the most part they're pretty orthodox about this stuff.

Edit: In the very weak defense of Saudi Arabia, they eventually repealed the driving ban.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

American Christians tried to ban women drivers because the vibrations could give them sexual pleasure.

Really just two sides of the same shitty coin. We're just a little further ahead than they are.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 4 days ago

They never or seldom punish the men. This woman said the father left the country.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Who are "you" quoting when you put quotes around "random" words?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Scare quotes, probably. This is a very particular sense of "getting". Like, otherwise, you could read this as a synonym for "receiving".

[–] remon@ani.social 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She reportedly became pregnant during a brief relationship with an Egyptian man and said that the child’s father had since left the country.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not what you're asking at all, but technically all conception is immaculate conception in Islam because it doesn't have the concept of the original sin (it holds that Adam and Eve's sin was forgiven after they asked God for forgiveness). You're thinking of virgin birth, in which case the answer is yes for Mary no for everyone else; in the OP's case they believe in "the father got away" birth.

Christianity would be very very different if Jesus had been born in Saudi Arabia.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you get all your sins wiped when you get pregnant?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago

Wait is that another Christian thing? Dammit Christians.

No; the father is male.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

At most he'd probably have to pay money to the girl's father.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip -2 points 4 days ago

Do you want him to be?