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[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We have the worst “allies” in the Middle East.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The sheikhs don't abide by any of these repressive rules.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 days ago

Actually, not one of those men personally gave birth out of wedlock!

/s, although it's technically true.

[–] metermatic26@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

For what its worth…the US-Saudi alliance is dead and buried.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Eh. They aren't blocking Saudi ports, and are intercepting things on the Saudi's behalf.

Unless you mean that as a prediction for the near future, or something.

[–] metermatic26@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I guess there is still an alliance. Kinda…sort of…for now… until the US-Iran war ends that is.

But in case it wasn’t plainly obvious: the US failed spectacularly to honor its treaty obligations and defend the Gulf states from attacks.

The US will soon have to retreat from the Strait or Hormuz and afterwards there is no chance in hell that the US will (or even can) commit the forces and resources necessary to rebuild their military bases and capabilities, restore deterrence and honor their original commitments.

The Saudi’s know this. They recently entered into the Mecca Defence Alliance and are actively seeking other partners such as Ukraine to help strengthen their defense.

[–] metermatic26@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And just to hammer it home: the US dragged its ‘allies’ into an unwinnable war while ignoring their strong warnings and objections (so much for shared interests…). 

Their defense commitments then proved questionable because the US couldn’t prevent the Iranians from dealing massive damage to oil, gas and military infrastructure all across the region. 

They then escalated the war, causing the Houthi’s to block the Bab al-Mandab Strait which dragged the Saudi’s even further into this war.

And now that the war is finally nearing its conclusion, the US has depleted its intercepter stockpiles, has lost a lot of its military infrastructure in the region, has pulled many of its air assets from the region and is likely going to accept de facto Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz, because they have no leverage whatsoever.

This leaves the Saudi’s reeling from the massive political and economic damage from the war, having to deter a stronger and emboldened Iran, while still being embroiled in a guerilla war with the Houthi’s, being largely unable to defend itself from drone and missile attacks, while losing its primary security guarantor because they just suffered a humiliating strategic defeat.

Oh, and the Iranians are now 100% guaranteed to try and develop nuclear weapons in the next few years and Russia is probably desperate enough to lend them a hand.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah tell me once KSA's shitty monarchy falls lol.

The running joke is that the Houthis would successfully invade KSA in a matter of days if the US actually left.

[–] Scrappy@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago

We were always in war with Eurasia, the ministry of truth said so