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Jon von Tetzchner, CEO and founder of Vivaldi Technologies, refuses to integrate AI features in its browser and wants human engineers, not AI, to write its code.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Great, now cover over why you rolled over for manifest v2 shitcanning. YOU WERE MY CHOSEN ONE VIVALDI , I NEED A CHROME BACKUP

[–] dfyx@piefed.social 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Basically they don't have the manpower to maintain a whole Chromium fork that still supports manifest v2. Even if they kept it in for a while, every upstream change might break things on their end.

It sucks and it's the main reason why I recently switched from Vivaldi to Floorp, at least on some of my machines. Vivaldi's ad blocker just isn't comparable to uBlock Origin.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

How is Floorp?

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's not hard to explain: it would require a ton of resources to maintain a fork with manifest v2, for a small usecase. Vivaldi is a small company compared to say Mozilla.

Plus the main usecase for v2, ad blockers, is already covered by their built in one.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Yup Vivaldi + ublock origin is still perfect for any web browsing. I'm remarkably surprised I still don't get YouTube ads.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Vivaldi is a proprietary Chromium reskin. Use Librewolf.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Librawolf is simply firefox and I do, but there are things that need chrome. I need both of them for certain things.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

IMO Librewolf ain’t simply Firefox, and I don’t think folks would say this if they gave Librewolf a chance. A lot of the corporate cruft/AI-adjacent stuff is removed, it’s not just a reskin with adblock. It’s a holistically better browser experience.

Edit: removed unintentional double negative

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

I'm running Libre, it's my main, but can't use my webflashers, the support in google meet, sound and screen sharing is crap.

It's not a simple thing that I like chrome. A great deal of crap i need for work demands it.

And then I end up on Brave because I'm running a bunch of Manifest V2 plugins.

Also, firefox can't seem to get anti-fingerprinting right. Noone wants to be ready to lie and randomize data but brave.

I simply want to stop using brave as my second browser, I don't even want it installed, but I'm stuck with it.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago

Funny you say that because some sites just don't work in librewolf, which is because it is protecting you, but still adds to friction.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

For things that specifically need a Chromium-based browser, like WebUSB, I use ungoogled-chromium.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ungoogle-chromium still has manifestV2?

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No. Ungoogled-chromium is literally just Chromium with the Google shit stripped out. If you want manifest v2, use something based on Firefox, like Librewolf.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

yeah already main Libre, but that does nothing for me when I need webUSB webSerial or to use google meet sharing.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I just keep two browsers around for different purposes.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

That's what I do, but I don't want brave to be one of them :)

[–] skaffi@infosec.pub -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think you'll find what you need in either Brave or Helium, or both.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

Brave does what I need. I just really fucking hate those people. Last time I tried Helium i had to abandon, but fuck if I can remember why.