France-style
distanced itself from the violence
pick one.
this post was submitted on 22 Oct 2026
74 points (100.0% liked)
Europe
12251 readers
1186 users here now
News and information from Europe πͺπΊ
(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)
Rules
- This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
- No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
- Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
- No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, islamophobia, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism. We follow German law; don't question the statehood of Israel.
- Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
- If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
- Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in other communities.
- Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
- No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)
- Always provide context with posts: Don't post uncontextualized images or videos, and don't start discussions without giving some context first.
(This list may get expanded as necessary.)
Posts that link to the following sources will be removed
- on any topic: Al Mayadeen, brusselssignal:eu, citjourno:com, europesays:com, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Fox, GB News, geo-trends:eu, news-pravda:com, OAN, RT, sociable:co, any AI slop sites (when in doubt please look for a credible imprint/about page), change:org (for privacy reasons), archive:is,ph,today (their JS DDoS websites)
- on Middle-East topics: Al Jazeera
- on Hungary: Euronews
Unless they're the only sources, please also avoid The Sun, Daily Mail, any "thinktank" type organization, and non-Lemmy social media (incl. Substack). Don't link to Twitter directly, instead use xcancel.com. For Reddit, use old:reddit:com
(Lists may get expanded as necessary.)
Ban lengths, etc.
We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.
If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 7 or 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.
If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to the admin that applied the rule (check modlog first to find who was it.)
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
I like riots in Athens. Plenty of things get destroyed, but generally just something associated with the government. You could park your car in the middle of one and it'll be fine, but the signage, bins, bus stop, etc. nearby, probably torn down and set on fire. There's always the strong sent of fuel and tear gas, but everyone's property stays nice and safe...mostly
instead of destroying bus stops they should demonstrate at the parliament. best chance to be heard by politicians if they suddendly miss their appointments
That is the difference between forceful, possibly violent protest and just plain old hooliganism and crime (plundering small local stores + selling loot).
Typically German. Admire the French Revolution, but denigrate the Guillotine. That's how you get things like the German Revolution of 1848, where the revolutionaries thought it was a good idea to hold talks with nobility instead of beheading them. Nobility stayed in power, to nobody's (except the revolutionaries') surprise.
I agree with the sentiment you're trying to express, but this is wrong. The French equivalent of the German Revolution of 1848 wasn't the French Revolution; it was... the French Revolution of 1848, where despite the French being meaningfully more radical than the Germans (mostly because German liberals wanted what French liberals were revolting against) essentially the same dynamic happened. What happened in 1848 basically everywhere was that the liberals and socialists won the fight against the conservatives but then the liberals (the people who held talks with the nobility in Germany) wanted to take the ball and run with it while leaving the socialists holding the bag. The socialists were mighty miffed about this and tried to launch a second revolution, and the liberals won that fight but without their radical flank (which they had irreparably alienated by, you know, shooting them dead) were vulnerable to counterrevolution by the conservatives. This same story happened in France BTW, which is how the Second French Republic became the Second French Empire, so it's unfair to specifically blame the Germans here. Less seriously, blaming mid-19th century Germany for not producing good revolutionaries is definitely a strat gestures at Karl Marx.
Edit: The role of the guillotine (and general revolutionary terror) in the French Revolution is also highly exaggerated. The revolutionaries had already defeated the conservative aristocracy by 1793 (they'd be restored to power only after the defeat of Napoleon), and if anything the rampant executions weakened the Revolution and lead to its backtracking in the Thermidorian Reaction. If you want to learn more about either of these revolutions I highly Mike Duncan's Revolutions Podcast, which has a multiple dozen episode series for each.
Seems to be a recurring theme in German revolutions.
It is a treasured tradition, unfortunately.
I mean, it's hard to say that the violence is an important or effective part of the French protests. Really the important part of a protest like this is disruption, and while this can be violent it doesn't have to be. There's nothing inherently violent about a general strike, for example. It's fine as long as the protestors have an concrete and realistic idea of what they're trying to do and how it's meant lead to what they want.
Nonviolent but let's please loot some Apple Stores still! /s
Big ass protests are long overdue!
Ich will leben... NICHT!
About time we start protesting. Young people are absolutely fucked and since society in general is getting on average older and older government policies tend to cater to the most voters i.e. not us.
ABOUT TIME! and i say that as a german!
a non violent one will not make the ones in power suddenly scared if they see no threat to thier livelyhoods.
RoΓkopf also warned that radicals and extremists could insert themselves among demonstrators in order to "attack police" or "simply be destructive."
yeah RIGHTWING radicals and extremists most likely
Ugh i can already hear CSU, CDU, SPD using this for mass survailance pushes and that they can work together with the AfD
by which im not saying "thats only nazis who want to protest there"
im saying: "make sure you dont get pulled into bullshit by LARPers" (LinksAgitierende Rechtskuschelnde Personen)