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Jon von Tetzchner, CEO and founder of Vivaldi Technologies, refuses to integrate AI features in its browser and wants human engineers, not AI, to write its code.

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[–] Bigolbilly7722@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Vivaldis not bad. Good for work where you need different profiles; not crazy resource intensive

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, it's a good Chromium browser. I used it for a few years before switching to Firefox browsers. If you have to use Chromium, I'd recommend it. If you can though Firefox has been far more enjoyable (I'm using Zen currently).

[–] NoOutlines@sopuli.xyz 53 points 1 day ago

I'm on librewolf just now having used vivaldi for about three years as my daily. Great browser, I just fancied swapping the chromium problems for gecko problems for a while :D

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And for people like me with a problem closing tabs, the memory management is excellent, killing off anything that hasn't been used in a while.

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You can do that in Firefox too tbf

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So what you're saying is there are two good alternatives out there now?!

[–] sage@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

No, there is only Firefox.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago

Firefox gang ✊🏼

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's my secondary browser. Pretty much just for HDR on YouTube. Firefox still can't do it.

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[–] Necrifyre@piefed.blahaj.zone 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

I've tried Vivaldi before in the past and it's UI and cluttered interface turned me way off. I've got my own concerns about it still that hasn't made me jump to it. That being, it relies on the Chrome Web Store to install extensions. If Google themselves decided not to have something on that store and you're using it on Vivaldi, well you're SOL.

That's an advantage for Firefox, that has its own extensions. Some of us are stuck with Firefox despite their interestingly bad choices and historical lack of fulfilling promises on their own behalf. There are still key advantages with Firefox than most browsers.

And even if some of us are tired of Firefox anyway, we've got its forks to use.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

got rid of it after i realised its more work to disable every new feature that just gets in the way.

[–] urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m the inverse. The amount of customization and power user features are what makes it my daily driver, though I agree the reliance on Google isn’t good. Also having their sync data stored e2e encrypted with my own private key is a nice touch. Though if a heavily customizable fork of Firefox with features like that was available I’d likely switch. I don’t have the time to maintain a highly customized userchrome.css that could break with every update, unfortunately

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[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 20 hours ago

They have improved the UI quite a lot recently imo.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

just as "most users" don't want ai baked into their browser, "most users" probably don't use any addons, or use only one--an adblocker. ad blocking (with configurable filter lists) is built into vivaldi already, no separate addon needed. works well-enough.

that said, the chromium base and its dependency on google to provide the 'addon store' is vivaldi's main detractor, because google has been putting the screws to anything that threatens their business as a data harvesting advertising company.

vivaldi does have some features not found in other browsers or other chromium browsers (excepting some in common with opera). the one i appreciate the most is the configurable toolbars, both items and their positions.. similar to how you can configure firefox's main toolbar.

i do occasionally need a chromium browser for specific tasks. vivaldi is the one i use. usually as a 'portable' installation that is easiest to trash when i'm done. it's also the one i use for a couple streaming sites because it does use chrome addons (but also is not chrome, either).

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[–] aks_@pawb.social 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would give it a try if it wasn't proprietary.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Hell, I'd use it if it wasn't Chromium.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 3 points 15 hours ago

i still yearn for an alternative reality where opera never abandoned it's engine

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

cool. open source your product and i might consider using it

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (5 children)

The arrogance in this statement, lol. :)

I mean sure, I get it, but what I dont get is why a company would have paid engineers working on a product and give it away for free if that's their only income stream? How will they pay their engineers? Pay for office space? Make a profit?

It's funny that people expect free stuff but complain when their data is being sold to ad agencies. :)

Like, shit, why can't I sit here on my throne and have companies give me free stuff and maybe I will decide to use it from the kindness of my heart. :)

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Great, now cover over why you rolled over for manifest v2 shitcanning. YOU WERE MY CHOSEN ONE VIVALDI , I NEED A CHROME BACKUP

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's not hard to explain: it would require a ton of resources to maintain a fork with manifest v2, for a small usecase. Vivaldi is a small company compared to say Mozilla.

Plus the main usecase for v2, ad blockers, is already covered by their built in one.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Yup Vivaldi + ublock origin is still perfect for any web browsing. I'm remarkably surprised I still don't get YouTube ads.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (12 children)

Vivaldi is a proprietary Chromium reskin. Use Librewolf.

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