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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Earth was past 7 of 9 planetary boundaries to support human life.... before AI happened. That is again, boundaries to support HUMAN LIFE.

Article from when it was 6/9:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/humans-have-crossed-6-of-9-planetary-boundaries/

[–] sgtgig@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

We were too addicted to AI slop to save ourselves.

Actually no, no one was addicted to AI slop, it was just shoved into every product so that huge companies could make a profit and everyone hates it.

But wait! The huge companies are losing tons money on this.

Why did we destroy the planet again????

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 3 points 3 hours ago

The capitalist class loves the idea and rewards companies with investment money. They think it could be the ultimate tool to snuff out any power the working class still has; making many employees optional, total surveillance of the population, etc. I think it will be a long time until it can do many jobs, but the surveillance tech seems to be coming along pretty well (with "AI" cameras recording license plates and biometric identifiers being put up everywhere).

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 3 hours ago

its the techbros that are obsessed with AI slop.

[–] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

And I thought AI killing us would use cool robots and Shit. Well.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 5 hours ago

Republicans are kinda like robots

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

So close, they will use coal robots and Shit.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

TBF it requires minimum effort from the ai. Efficient.

[–] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

This one sums up humanity quite well these days: "Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you!" - Londo Mollari

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 45 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Meanwhile China is going all in on renewables.

Here is a fact: an authoritarian non-democracy is doing a lot for securing the future of humanity, while the "leader of the free world" are vandalizing the climate and accelerating apocalyptic climate catastrophe.

In 2025, China is a net positive for the future of humanity, while the USA is a net negative.

If that makes you uncomfortable about what our political and economic systems in the West that brought us here, well, you know the meme: "facts don't care about your feelings".

If you, like me, care about the future of democracy, we have to do a LOT of digging.

[–] Mertn33@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

And a lot of burying.

[–] neighbourbehaviour@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Our current system is going about how Marx predicted it would. The course correction that occurred after the Great Depression has been now completely reversed and we're back staring at its approaching collapse. I don't think we can escape that long term, and we'll lose democracy in the process, unless we start moving away from capitalism. We gotta attack private firm ownership. Otherwise we'll keep getting people accumulate enough capital to buy the rest of the system and steamroll the rest of us for profit.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Meanwhile China is going all in on renewables.

BUT

AT

WHAT

COST

If that makes you uncomfortable about what our political and economic systems in the West that brought us here, well, you know the meme: “facts don’t care about your feelings”.

It might be cold comfort, but none of these business models have the liquidity behind them to build out coal power at the levels they claim they'll need.

Nevermind that solar/wind would be cheaper. Or that the raw manpower to yield coal in quantity no longer exists. So much of these proposals are - at their heart - the same vaporware that promised waves of new nuclear construction and hydro-power and geothermal.

Bottom line is that GenAI's primary revenue comes from dumb VC and bad debt. They can't build, much less operate, any of this shit.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

We are a nation of man/woman children. Petulant little kids who don't want to grow up and be responsible for anything.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Fuck AI and these energy guzzling data centers. For decades we were told to conserve power and such and now all of those savings are being sucked up, and more, by these centers.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

its actually raising electricity prices in many areas.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Remember, everytime us plebs are told to sacrifice for the environment it’s so the corpos and parasites can off load moral responsibility onto us.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

they funded alot of campaigns doing that.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

And for some reason OUR utility bills are going up to pay for it.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago
[–] you_are_it@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Hey, regime 🖕

(Just expressing what is left to express here)

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Our most advanced tech is dependent on some of our most old tech.

[–] madsen@lemmy.world 106 points 23 hours ago (17 children)

It's fucking insane how much is invested (both money and natural resources) in the emperor's new clothes. Let's scorch the planet because every idiot out there buys into the marketing and hype. We are utterly and truly doomed because of ourselves.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 38 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Future generations will look back on the pre apocalypse population and call us sleep walkers. I know, as I'm one of them. Life is difficult enough already without jeopardising my freedom as the only way to change our course is violence at this point.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

There's still time for a general strike. The country would be brought to its knees if suddenly deprived of profit and labor. That tactic was extremely effective in Chile in 2019, and had they not fallen for the trick of liberal reform, they would've had a successful revolution on their hands with virtually no bloodshed.

If you aren't in a union (or even if you are, it's worth dual-carding), please consider joining the IWW to unionize your workplace (bonus: you'll get higher wages, better benefits, and more time off if you succeed!) to strengthen a general strike if we manage to enact one.

And for our international friends, you should join one as well, as fascism is gaining momentum globally. If your country isn't listed below, just contact the IWW directly in the link above.

  • 🇦🇷 Argentina: FORA
  • 🇦🇺 Australia: ASF-IWA
  • 🇧🇷 Brazil: FOB
  • 🇧🇬 Bulgaria: ARS, CITUB
  • 🇩🇪 Germany: FAU
  • 🇬🇷 Greece: ESE
  • 🇮🇹 Italy: USI
  • 🇳🇱 🇧🇪 Netherlands & Belgium: Vriji Bond
  • 🇪🇸 Spain: CNT
  • 🇸🇪 Sweden: SAC
  • 🇬🇧 United Kingdom: UVW

Also @FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Future generations will look back on the pre apocalypse population

If it makes you feel any better, our '01, '08, '14, and '20 recessions all put hard downward pressure on carbon emissions.

If Trump manages to throw us into the first full blown Depression in a century, he may do more to curb US emissions than any president in history.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

All of these problems are caused by a remarkably small network of people. I'm not even necessarily talking about the CEOs. It's the boards of directors. This is also the pool from which CEOs are drawn one and the pool to which CEOs return after their golden parachute. They function as a living repository of evil. A warehouse of criminals and nepo-babies. (Ex: Airbnb guy joined DOGE and is on teslas board. So first he destroys the housing market for a generation, and then destroys the government, and he is the person who directs Tesla.)

Like, the network is so small it could fit in one big room.

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[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Datacenter != AI

If you are using the internet for anything with cloud storage, you are contributing to datacenter growth. And that includes nearly everyone using social media.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (5 children)

Datacenter != AI

Except the demand for new data centers is driven entirely by the capacity constraints of the current AI models.

If you are using the internet for anything with cloud storage, you are contributing to datacenter growth.

"Why are you mad at my five ton diseal SUV when you just adopted a pet chihuahua? They both emit carbon!"

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[–] kcuf@lemmy.world 24 points 18 hours ago

Sure but energy use per datacenters was on a downward trend before ai, then it went the other way hard

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

Yes but data center growth prior to AI was manageable. There isn't a grid on the planet (except maybe china?) which can support the growth of AI data centers.

These people have to plan energy needs on a 10-20 year life cycle, not 2. It's the 2 that's the problem.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

china is also building lots of coal plants to sustain the datacenters.

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