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Frustrated Windows 10 users are jumping ship to macOS.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 88 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You mean having an AI watch everything you do isn’t a good selling point?

[–] hcf@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I don't think it's AI aversion. The problem is that Windows 11 guts the muscle memory that older consumers have built up from using prior generations of Microsoft Windows.

If a company is going to dick me over by suddenly changing/hiding/abstracting-away parts of their OS that I used to (an am used to) use on a daily basis, then I'd rather relearn a new OS from a company that doesn't have the track record of totally redoing their entire OS in the course of a single OS generation.

If I also have a little bit more disposable income and am anticipating a poor economic downturn, I'm going with the device that I can go to a physical brick-and-mortar place and have it serviced as opposed to the crap shoot that is any other Windows-licensed manufacturer's device.

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[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 57 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I mean MacOSX put AI in the OS, Siri, and all their apps as well so I can't really see how the change would be do to AI. Privacy maybe

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)

On MacOS, at least for now, AI isn't prominent at all. I've been using an M4 Air for a month before I remembered that Apple Intelligence was a thing and had to google how to use it. So far it only seems to be partially available in 1st party Apple apps which I don't use anyway.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Mail, Messages, Notes, Phone, Photos, Reminders, Safari, Shortcuts are all being integrated. That's outside of the whole image creation, integration into smartlook (basically windows search), and whatever else I can't think of at the moment. The one good thing I've seen is that you can turn it off. But it does scan your text to provide synonyms, summaries, rewordings... And that's just what it shows when I click intro.

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[–] zewm@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Have you actually used Siri? It’s a fucking joke Apple has no idea how to do AI. I think they will be better off than on Windows.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 12 points 3 months ago

Siri is bad but at least it has natural language processing. I think it's so funny how CEOs have no idea how LLMs work.

Over a year ago Apple literally ran an ad showing off an "Apple Intelligence" feature that you could tell nobody at Apple ran by the actual engineers before deciding it was possible. It (of course) has still not been released.

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[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 4 points 3 months ago

It stays out of your way though. Windows wants it to be your entire pc interface so they can charge you monthly for it eventually

[–] casmael@mander.xyz 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Unfortunately the word ‘despite’ has been badly damaged as a result of the improper loads applied by this headline. It looks like it’ll be out of action for at least a couple months, maybe past the end of the season.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

despite Microsoft's push for Copilot+ PCs

Not despite, because of.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 months ago
[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 33 points 3 months ago

Went to Linux on the old laptop. A smoothing transition as we were using Libreoffice for a few years before. For most people it is not the OS but the apps that stop you moving off Windows.

[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Out of the frying pan, into the fire.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Well, at this point more like out of the fire into the frying pan

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Apple's AI screwup may end up being the best move the company made since the switch to Apple silicon.

[–] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 11 points 3 months ago

its like slipping on a banana to avoid a slash of a chainsaw

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What was the apple ai screw up? I may have missed or forgotten this story.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago

Basically it's garbage, Siri effectively just posts your query, sans context, to chatGPT. What comes back is hilariously bad. If they'd integrated it "correctly", it'd probably be as bad as MS. I've played with it a bunch in the store, though my device (intel) doesn't support it at all.

[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Windows home and pro editions are now just billboards. Like literal billboards. I don’t know how people put up with this much garbage in their system. Microsoft is actively working against their users. Whatever users say they don’t like, Microsoft triples down on it.

[–] hcf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

They're not acting against their users, it's just that non-enterprise consumers are a complete afterthought. I.e. less of a "fuck you" to individual consumers and more of a "who the fuck do you think you are?".

Why market or design an OS for individual consumers when the majority of your revenue is going to come from volume licensing by manufacturers that are fulfilling bulk purchases from corporate America/higher-ed?

[–] Abrinoxus@lemmy.today 12 points 3 months ago
[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 12 points 3 months ago

For anyone who has to/wants to stay on win 10 for whatever reason, here's a FOSS guide for enabling ESU updates, of course brought to you by a furry.

https://bsky.app/profile/socksthewolf.com/post/3m2depgbys22e

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Privacy on Windows is EOL, so Windows is too.

If you really need x86 for games, there’s SteamOS.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

It was EOL long long ago

The difference was that the user experience was reasonable

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[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago
[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I wish there was a Linux or BSD OEM that sells the same build quality/QA/QC as Apple.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I only know of https://system76.com/ but have no personal experience with them.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do. They're garbage cleo laptops with a badge and no support. I had one, when it failed they refused to stand behind it at all.

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[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago

Apple PC

So many Apple users' eyes just twitched

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

You know its bad when long time office users start considering Libreoffice

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