Despite being neurodivergent, I also happen not to be profoundly evil ! So I don't see myself joining anytime soon...
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"I'm not a POS, I'm neurodivergent..."
Riiiiiiiiight... 🤔
Not mutually exclusive.
Edit: I say this as someone who's neurospicy.
yeah. i'm fully willing to believe a bunch of these tech ceos are neurodivergent as they claim. HOWEVER. we all know neurodivergent people who don't weaponize their neurodivergence to justify eugenics, mass surveillance, or just plain being shitty to people. we don't have to respect your autism excuse when you do something shitty and then ask you why you did that.
1000% agree
So the dude was tweaking on whatever legalized version of cocaine is available this week and then passes it off as neurodivergent. This makes those of us that actually have issues look like hyperactive children. Also fuck Palantir. I'd rather drag my nuts through broken glass than ever be associated with their human rights violation machine. Fucking sickening.
Why the fuck are all the rich assholes tweaked out of their gourds? It speakes volumes that even those at the top of this bullshit society hate it and resort to drugs to cope.
For them it's probably truly recreational and for fun as opposed to us slaves of society doing it just to fucking cope or blow off some steam.
That was my first thought, dude looked coked up...
The way I read this is that they're trying to weaponize autism. They see people who are neurodivergent as a resource they can tap into.
Alex Karp's behavior is much better explained by cocaine. He may be neurodivergent, but he was still high as giraffe pussy.
Woah! That's pretty high!
No thanks I’m good on violating everyone’s 4th amendment rights and identifying targets for a genocide like an absolute criminal traitor asshole
I‘m sick and tired of rich schmucks selling their lack of empathy as being neurodivergent. Nah man, you don‘t struggle with social cues. You simply don‘t care about others. That‘s a huge difference.
Technically antisocial personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder are neurodivergent...
Dunno man, even the Wammy's House looks like a more trustworthy "neurodivergent fellowship" than Palantir's.
He's definitely neurodivergent and not drug addicted. Definitely.
He’s definitely sitting comfortably in the middle of that Venn
Edit: Lmfao the Palantir account actually started their tweet about this with “While cross-country skiing this morning”
Do they think we’re stupid?
Is the fellowship forming to kick the shit out of this guy for giving a bad name to neurodivergents everywhere?
You have my axe.
And my fidget sword
And my prowbar
They say it’s not a DEI initiative; they just want to get this talent onboard for their business.
Ironically, that’s exactly what DEI initiatives were all about: recognizing that if we let white bros excluded all others from the workplace, like they have in prior decades, we will shut out the majority of the world’s talent, and we should do whatever it takes to make sure everyone can join, work, and truly focus without watching their back all the time.
Or more cynically: privileged talent knows its worth, marginalized talent is undervalued and will thank you for only lightly screwing it
Sauron's DEI. Its cool, its not DEI because he thought of it this time.
All the old Aspies are watching alone from the corner of the room saying to themselves, “wtf is wrong with this guy?”
Can't wait until all these Tech wastes of human garbage finally reach critical mass, self consume, and crawl back under historical rocks.
For the record, using the real issue of nuerodivergence as an excuse for a lack of consciousness or mortality is new low.
Guaranteed Palantir isn't accepting neurodivergence as an excuse for Jack shit from their non C-suite employees
"Hyperfocus"... just wanna exploit us, those guys

Yeah also hyperfocua is thankfully often one of the earliest symptoms to be dealt with. The name "hyperfocus" sounds great, but when I tell the story of how in college I sat down to write a paper then several hours later was finished, couldn't tell you anything about it and desperately needed food, water, and to use the restroom but was so exhausted I didn't know how to prioritize these needs and spent several minutes deciding which to resolve first… Yeah then it sounds like a symptom of a disability rather than some magic power.
I swear I'm sick and tired of people thinking adhd is basically being an attention feruchemist
You forgot to say that the paper in this story can be anything. It can be a short letter you spend hours perfecting just because. Or one paragraph on a subject that somehow seems more magical than the rest of life in this specific moment. It's not even necessarily something big. You can hyperfocus on drawing and redrawing one icon again and again.
In this case it was just a decent gen ed literature paper but yeah I once literally couldn't stop reading the Wikipedia article about the evolution of plants when I was unmedicated.
I'm more likely to talk of hyperfocus when it's things theoretically people would think are good to be unable to stop focusing on like school, work, or learning. This is largely because crashing on the couch doomscrolling instead of eating is something even neurotypicals do these days and because talking about all the nights I spent playing binding of Isaac or civilization with zero capacity to stop and do my damn homework or go to bed make it sound like a failing and like I'm blaming my mental illness.
But yeah, it's inability to regulate attention and we live in a world in which sophisticated tools for catching and maintaining attention are extremely commonplace and should be more regulated.
"The current LLM tech landscape positions [neurodivergent people] to dominate," according to the application. "Pattern recognition. Non-linear thinking. Hyperfocus. The cognitive traits that make the neurodivergent different are precisely what make them exceptional in an AI-driven world."
What a load of bullshit, LLMs will be used in a million ways to sideline neurodivergent people in society whether it be BS AI "help" for a neurodivergent student replacing a human teacher or job applications using AI to illegally screen and filter out neurodivergent people, this is a bad decade for neurodivergent people and it is likely only to get worse as societies collapse into bigotry from the endless stresses and catastrophies of runaway climate change.
Right, there was legal pressure upon inputs of decision-making to make it more egalitarian or whatever. And by other criteria too.
So what happens is full obfuscation of inputs. In the form of LLMs.
Philosophically this is correct in my opinion, trees should be judged by their fruit.
A simplified comparison is British vs Prussian army philosophy, in Prussia, when evaluating officer's performance, they'd judge his decision-making process and its inputs, even if the result was catastrophic, while in British army and navy they'd only judge the result, no matter how correct the decision-making. That has been often called unjust and not nuanced enough, but one way lost historically and the other won. For a reason. Judgement of inputs has more failure points. It causes degeneracy long-term.
A bit like every metric used as a KPI ceasing to be a useful metric, there's such a commonly quoted MBA rule, except MBAs are not smart enough to remember that rule, generally.
The alternative to this is responsibility for all that happens downstream. No matter which inputs you get. In exchange for that you are allowed to have any decision-making process at all, just pay for it in full if something wrong happens.
We are being pressed by evolution (including technical progress) to adopt that approach, and it's good, but it'll take probably lots of wars and revolutions. People who hide malice behind formally correct inputs do resist. And they do hold power.
Instead of inputs you should treat any social mechanism as a black box, and both limit and judge its outputs. If they are outside limits, discard and punish. If they are inside limits, then evaluate and bill - in prison years or in fines or both. Or reward.
You never know all the inputs anyway and can't tell if they are correct.
Wiping Palantir off the face of the earth would be a giant leap forward for humanity.
Of course, when we can be utilized we're fine.
Dont fucking drag us into your mud.
Ah yes, let's start the slow process of eventually funneling people into roles based off this shit. AI is the future, and potentially our self-bootstrapped god. Neurodivergence makes you better at this sort of work. You're one of the chosen people. High priest to Roko's ~~Ballsack~~ Basilisk or some shit.
I know that's extreme to say, but Peter Thiel, the money behind Palantir, recently gave some absolutely insane speeches about the fucking antichrist. The AI race is legitimately a cult with religious meaning to some of these fucks.
Also, brace yourselves for attempts to use this as a shield against criticism. You can't get mad at us for not understanding the concept of human dignity, we've got the billionaire international surveillance contractor stamp of the global elite approved neurodivergence!
To be clear, no hate meant towards the neurodivergent. I am one. All the hate to the fucking billionaires just transparently fucking over the world in every way they can.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
The cognitive traits that make the neurodivergent different are precisely what make them exceptional in an AI-driven world.” Palantir, a data and analytics company co-founded by conservative “kingmaker” Peter Thiel, was quick to argue that the fellowship is not a DEI initiative. “This is not a diversity initiative. We believe neurodivergent individuals will have a competitive advantage as elite builders of the next technological era, and we’re hiring accordingly for all roles.”
Wow, that's super deep and profound. Maybe I had these people all wrong.
So, essentially, you believe there are likely very talented people who don't fit within the neat little box of what success is "supposed to typically look like." They might even be looked over or excluded simply because they don't fit into that box, but you are wise enough to see past that. You understand that the very traits that lead to their exclusion, may also provide them with a unique perspective that is often lacking in everyone who does fit neatly into that homogeneous box. And that carving out a place on the team that allows for the unique perspective of those divergent people, can actually be an advantage to everyone...
Or you just gave them your name and contact information as one of the first people to round up when Trump needs another out group to blame shit on and Palantir is fully onboard with exterminating undesirables.