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I'm using CloudFlare to hide my home IP and to reduce traffic from clankers. However, I'm using the free tier, so how am I the product? What am I sacrificing? Is there another way to do the above without selling my digital soul?

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (32 children)

I have never used it, so take this with a grain of salt, but last I read, with the free tier, you could not secure traffic between yourself and Cloudflare with your own certs which implies they can decrypt and read that traffic. What, if anything, they do with that capability I do not know. I just do not trust my hosted assets to be secured with certs/keys I do not control.

There are other things CF can do (bot detection, DDoS protection, etc), but if you just want to avoid exposing your home IP, a cheap VPS running Nginx can work the same way as a CF tunnel. Setup Wireguard on the VPS and have your backend servers in Nginx connect to your home assets via that. If the VPS is the "server" side of the WG tunnel, you don't have to open any local ports in your router at all. I've been doing that, originally with OpenVPN, since before CF tunnels were ever offered as a service.

Edit: You don't even need WG, really. If you setup a persistent SSH tunnel and forward / bind a port to your VPS, you can tunnel the traffic over that.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 4 points 1 week ago (16 children)

I have the same setup but using frp which stands for fast reverse proxy.

The term VPN is pure marketing bs. What is called VPN today used to be called Proxy Server.

I've also heard good things about using Pangolin for the same setup.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The term VPN is pure marketing bs. What is called VPN today used to be called Proxy Server.

Perhaps if you are only talking about the consumer level stuff advertised on TV. Otherwise I can assure you that "Virtual Private Networks" are a real thing that have absolutely nothing to do with Proxy Servers.

On down the comment chain you mention "...our computers would not see each other and would not be able to connect to each other via that service. " as some kind of test of whether a thing is a VPN or Proxy Service but what you're missing is that this is a completely common and advisable configuration for companies. In fact Zero Trust essentially demands configurations like this. When Bob from Marketing fires up his VPN to the Corporate Office he doesn't need access to every server and desktop there nor does his laptop need to be able to access the laptops of other VPN users. They get access to what they need and nothing more.

Hell the ability to access the internet via the tunnel, called Split Tunneling, is also controllable.

It's that ability to control where the tunnel terminates that allows consumer VPNs, like Proton, to be used the way they are.

So while private individuals absolutely do use VPNs as an ersatz replacement for Proxy Servers they are nowhere near the whole use case for VPNs.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hell the ability to access the internet via the tunnel, called Split Tunneling, is also controllable.

It’s that ability to control where the tunnel terminates that allows consumer VPNs, like Proton, to be used the way they are.

you can do the same split tunneling via proxy servers

while private individuals absolutely do use VPNs as an ersatz replacement for Proxy Servers they are nowhere near the whole use case for VPN

I agree. That also means that for certain usecases they are equivalent. It's sometimes worth checking all options to find the best one for that specific case.

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