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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 77 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's the most astonishing part of it to me.

Reality has gone completely off the rails. Virtually every day, I read another account of blithering insanity, and painfully obviously dangerous and destructive insanity, from this administration, and then I watch as all of the official entities that are meant to check that sort of insanity just treat it as another day and another press release from another President's office.

It's like The Emperor's New Clothes, only far far worse.

And all in less than a year...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The media is highly complicity in how they sanewash the most insane shit we've ever seen

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People still doubling down on their actions in 24, not acknowledging that those very actions led to the orange idiot being elected. Again.

As long as there is no acknowledgement, we can expect a repeat of the very same in 28, possibly with the literal devil on the other side, while the voters smugly criticize the minutae of the more sensible candidate and sit it out.

Sometimes you put yourself aside in the interest of the country.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh look - it's the DNC Defense Force, here to get an early start on guilt-tripping leftists who won't vote for whichever shitty center right neolib hack the DNC will likely end up trying to foist on the voters at the behest of their corporate donors.

Fuck that. It's not the voters' responsibility to vote for a piece of shit just because they stink a little bit less than the other piece of shit - it's the DNC's responsibility to run candidates people actually want to vote for. And when they can't (or more accurately won't) even do that, then they and nobody else are responsible for the consequences.

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And this is how we got to Trump, the other side acts like psychos but at least they have kind of a coherent football team mentality going on, even if they're fucking ignorant racist sons of bitches. They don't focus on the minutia of how they disagree with each other at every turn and spew vitriol and divide themselves like this. Nobody fucking hates the other factions on the left like a lefty. We are all so fractured and individual it's a fucking joke. Like herding fucking cats, buddy. We should be able to use the anger from this moment to unite, but none of us can even decide what the fuck we should be uniting around. Meanwhile violent sociopathic pedophiles can corral enough morons to crash their way into the capitol whenever they want. We all have lofty ideals about the best possible form of government and the people to staff that government, but in order to have an operational government you have to have a team of people who are united. We can't even agree on the morality of violence, much less point of finger in the direction we should go from here. Fucking frustrating homies.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh and....

The fact that this whole norion of a lack of lefty unity is complete bullshit was neatly demonstrated by leftist voters coming together to overwhelmingly support Zohran Mamdani.

And who didn't support him? The fucking establishment neolib hacks - the exact same people who keep fucking us over by putting up shitty candidates then trying to guilt trip leftists into voting for them. We finally got a candidate we wanted and they couldn't even be arsed to endorse him.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Enjoy the next 3 then. It's not even what I'm implying. In fact, I'm positive you will - the fact that the two comments above sound the same tell me all I need to know.

At least flip your scripts once in a while.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Supporting genocide is not fucking "minutia."

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Should the DNC have run a better candidate? Yes!

Was Harris a dream president? No!

Would she have been better than Trump? Undoubtedly!

Should people have voted for her? Yes, if you oppose Trump’s fascism. But no, if you don’t really care about your fellow citizens who may be at risk for deportation/prosecution/dehumanization.

Harris and the DNC would’ve been a bit more amenable to the popular opinion than trump and the GQP have ever been. So after her election, people could have protested in Washington dc against Israel’s genocide and have found a listening ear in Congress.

You shouldn’t base your presidential vote purely on one single issue. Especially not if it’s a foreign affairs issue, which is what the Israeli genocide in Palestine is. You need to look at the much broader picture. Look at the other policies and ideas that both candidates have.

We knew about trumps desire to hurt his political enemies, we knew about his hatred for trans people, we knew about his desire to deport immigrant, before he got elected. So you could have based your vote on that.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And what you just described is the exact process by which governments descend into tyranny.

The much better way to deal with the issue, if you actually do care about your fellow humans, is to refuse to support a toxic candidate even if they are somewhat less toxic than the alternative, and make sure at every single turn that the blame is placed squarely where it should be - on the foul, loathsome, corrupt and compromised scumbags who arranged for the nomination of a toxic piece of shit candidate in the first place.

Less bad is still bad. If you settle for less bad, the best you'll ever get is that things woll potentially get worse somewhat more slowly than they would otherwise. They'll still inevitably get worse.

If you want things to actually get better, then you have to hold the scumbags' feet to the fire. You have to make sure that it's widely understood that they and they alone are the reason that the best we can hope for is somewhat less bad and things getting worse somewhat more slowly. And you can't do that by meekly going along with them.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And that's how you got trump and actual fascism.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Actually, we got fascism by constantly moving towards it over a span of at least 60 years, with the only difference being that we sometimes moved more quickly towards it and sometimes more slowly.

We moved towards it under Biden too, and would've continued moving towards it under either him or Harris.

The only thing that's notable about Trump as far as that goes is how much he moved us and how quickly. But this was always the destination.

The only way we could've moved away from fascism rather than towards it would've been to elect federal politicians who were actually good instead of just less bad. But we not only haven't been given that choice, but have been indoctrinated into treating less bad as a virtue

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So who would you suggest? Out of all the possible candidates during the last election, who would you suggest people should have voted for?

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

I'll go one better - if the DNC hadn't interfered and fucked us over, the people would have elected Sanders in 2016 and we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

oh look, another votescold so thoroughly convinced that everything would have been fine if only everyone followed their campaign strategy, that they're literally blaming anti-fascists for fascism. How about blaming actual fascists instead?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ok, I'll take the non raping, non narcissist, non child abusing, non twice impeached, non trying to save his fat lardy ass, non looking to use the office to take revenge on anyone and anything he disagrees with one, thanks.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

votescold

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