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[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (30 children)

I still can't stand the Apple design philosophy no matter how much exposure. Mostly has to do with their "saving the user from themselves" restrictions in their operating systems. I'd rather defang windows instead, even if it takes much longer per machine.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago (29 children)

Have you used a Mac in the last 10 years, beyond just flicking the mouse around at a FutureShop?

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 4 points 5 days ago (14 children)

I'm using a Mac for software development at my current job. I prefer it over windows but I still hate it. Can't even alt tab through windows on that piece of garbage without extra software.

[–] ufarooq@programming.dev 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can cmd+tab between applications, and cmd+~ between windows of a given application.

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just want a list of all my windows, like pretty much every other window manager does. This just makes finding the correct window take more keypresses.

[–] ufarooq@programming.dev 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's numerous ways to accomplish this. If you want the windows of your current app, "App Expose" (Ctrl+Down, and then Left/Right/Up/Down to select) is what you want. If it's all the windows, "Mission Control" (Ctrl+Up, granted you do have to click the window with the mouse) is what you want.

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't want to click anything. I want keyboard shortcuts. Windows of the current app is also not what I want.

[–] ufarooq@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

Alright, just tried it out here's how it works. cmd+tab to go to the application you want, if you're good there, let go and you're in the app. If you want a specific window of that app, press the down button to see all of the windows of that app and then use left/right arrow to select the window you want, and enter to select and focus, or esc if you saw what you needed to see and want to get back to what you were doing.

I'm not an Apple fan boy (other than I have not been happy with any PC hardware). I would love Linux on my M4, for now it will suffice on my server, my desktop, and my kids' computers. I'm just tired of folks authoritatively crapping on things they may not have experienced or played around with. Same goes when folks crap on KDE or Gnome.

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