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One of these is an authoritarian imperialist empire, the other is China (lemmy.ml)

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 months ago (27 children)

Tibet has been part of China for several centuries.
So weird that China would claim territory off its own southern coast in a sea named after it.
Taiwan is already part of China, as even the Taiwanese will tell you.

[–] observes_depths@aussie.zone -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

Tibetans were invaded by force, displaced, hate China and want their country back.
The South China Sea is south of China, not part of China. Many other nations draw important food and income from the area and China is kicking them out to starve. Please do a google search at least before spreading assumptions.
Taiwan claims to be an independent nation ready to resist China, so I'd love to know which Taiwanese say that.

So why the love for China anyway? What's your background here?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Tibetans were invaded by force, displaced, hate China and want their country back.

Tibetans were not displaced. They’re still there. What got displaced was a feudal theocratic dynasty. Of course they want their country back: they miss ruling over desperate, illiterate feudal serfs.

Many other nations draw important food and income from the area and China is kicking them out to starve.

Several countries have overlapping claims, but for some reason Westerners are only interested in China’s claims, because Western media has one specific narrative it wants to tell. Maybe Westerners should mind their own business and let countries on the other side of the world sort out their own disputes.

Taiwan claims to be an independent nation ready to resist China

And yet only a dozen UN member states recognize it as an independent state.

I’d love to know which Taiwanese say that.

Pretty much all of them? It’s even in the ROC’s constitution. Both the ROC and the PRC claim all of China, including the island of Formosa.

What’s your background here?

My background is anti-imperialism.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Several countries have overlapping claims, but for some reason Westerners are only interested in China’s claims, because Western media has one specific narrative it wants to tell. Maybe Westerners should mind their own business and let countries on the other side of the world sort out their own disputes.

You're forgetting to tell the commenter previously, these islands were previously occupied by France and Japan,
one colonizer kicked out of Asia and the other being the loser of world war II.

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