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[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (17 children)

Fight against billionaires

Look inside

Surveillance and censorship of everyone else

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 7 hours ago (11 children)

You do realize that the billionaires are already surveilling and censoring everyone? Google sharing info with ICE, Bezos killing Washington Post, Musk modifying algorithms to promote his messages and banning inconvenient accounts, Thiel promoting his crazy agenda through Palantir and so on and so on.

When you say "government should not surveil and censor" you're really saying "only billionaires should surveil and censor".

The proper way forward is to censor the shit out of Russian bot ridden, billionaire controlled propaganda machines that is social media and move discussion back to civilized places. People who think that places like Twitter are net benefit for society are delusional. They gave us nothing but bunch of right wing populists and disinformation while real media is still doing all the actual oversight. The sooner all those places are banned the better.

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 hours ago (10 children)

And the solution to that is to give the billionaires your government ID?

[–] aka_@piefed.social 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn’t work like that… it’s an open source government platform the one doing the id check.

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

That really doesn't ease my concern that it's just more government surveillance

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 hours ago

An app that gets requests to verify access and returns ok/no is minimal surveillance. We are so past that in terms of surveillance that complaining about it seems silly.

[–] aka_@piefed.social 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I don’t know what country you’re from but in mine one has to produce one’s id to vote, access adult only establishments, go through customs or board a plane. I understand these as the usual procedures of a civilized society.

I don’t understand how verifying one’s identity and age when accessing a regulated site is any different. It fascinates me how rules that are business as usual in the physical world seem not to apply in the digital world for (??) reasons.

In the physical world if you have a business you have to pay taxes, apply for licenses, and are liable for offering illegal or harmful merchandise or services.

In the digital world you can fill a room with children and show them porn and political propaganda for (??) reasons. And not allowing it is “government interference”. So why are children not allowed in brothels or casinos in the physical world? “Government interference”?

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