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As usual I'd love for the down voters to comment instead of being cowards.
I'll bite.
China is not communist. But we should talk about different economic systems because that's the ultimate goal.
Communism in itself is a true ideal as long as output exceeds intake and satisfaction is high. It's also possible on a global scale, if not designed for it.
Capitalism is also a true ideal as long as it's built on an immovable foundation of human rights paid for by centralized non profit corporations.
The issue has nothing to do with the ideas themselves. The issue is and always has been the concentration of power.
It is the ideas of the few which can never properly represent the masses. Even with the best intentions. The only true ideal for power is that there is none except when handled by all. The US Constitution seemed to have this idea in mind with its intent, though it's evolved into the same old concentration of power over time. Doesn't matter which party either. The reality is power is so concentrated now that there are no true parties anymore. This is a mafia that transcends both sides.
So no China is no proof of anything except improper concentration of power. Mostly capitalist by the way. And totally tyrannical in their wielding of power against free thought, sex, religion, etc. It's practically anti freedom and contradicts every protected class we have in the US.
Does anyone have the statistics on how many abortion occur there? Even if you're pro choice, the piles of discarded fetuses could reach skyscraper height. This is not a normal issue to have. How many illiterate? How many old people died while they were bolted inside their homes during COVID?
If the question is what system would you be willing to put your life in the hands of, there is only one answer: which one has the most distributed power and wealth above the rest.
i just downvoted you but i'm commenting to let you know so that i'm not a coward, i’ll let my comrades handle it, im not in the mood. you’re about to get schooled
Still waiting for the teacher to show. Let us all know if your mood improves enough to discuss.
You already got schooled extremely hard with multiple effort posts you couldn't respond to
Oh I'm still plugging away. So far this entire comment section is trying to pull the argument into China good, US bad direction. Ignoring my argument altogether (both systems suck).
Unfortunately, my role has become teacher just to try to keep people in topic. I'm talking about a unifying system we should all be working on and everyone else is rooting for their sports team like drunken idiots.
Redditers need to learn that disagreeing with an argument is not the same as ignoring it. (Though in the case it's just an assertion, not an argument)
Oh my God, what an insufferable loser you are. You've been catagorically schooled by multiple people much more knowledgeable than you and now you're trying to fall back on smug condescention like you arrogant western supremacists always do. "A foreigner disagreed with me? Clearly I just need to educate this ignorant savage!"
No, you aren't. All you've done is shrug and say "both sides bad" while condemning the actually better system.
This is such projection, Jesus Christ
Ah it seems you've failed to keep your composure as well. Why would anyone take you seriously?
Are you actually trying to do a caricature of the most insufferable kind of reddit shithead? It's hard to believe anyone could sincerely type this out
Oh absolutely not. I simply treat my commentary on the internet in line with how I treat people face to face. I don't know you or what is going on in your life. What things you've achieved or suffered. I simply cannot devolve a person to fit my needs because I'm hiding behind an anonymous keyboard. I'm not trying to take a moral high ground either. I want us to reach common ground in the end.
I'm convinced 99% of the world cares about a few common goals: health, family, housing, entertainment, peace and fairness.
The fact we are struggling with each other to to figure the best way to get that... shit. You're like a great person compared to so many that don't even think about these things or have the education to consider it. It's okay that we disagree or misunderstand each other. I'm giving us both the benefit of the doubt that our intent is good and not just selfishly.
So you act like a caricature of an insufferable reddit loser in real life too?
😭😭😭
Your insults only diminish any credibility you had. It's the Redditors who hide behind their anonymity to speak so poorly towards another human being.
Go back to reddit you insufferable nerd
@QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml already schooled you so hard
Unfortunately unlikely he will bother to read my effort post and if he does I have my doubts at his ability to comprehend it as he spouts off "third way" dog whistles and the most ridiculous orientalist chauvinist narratives and lies about China.