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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (24 children)

What I think you are also seeing is AI sucking at some things and doing better than humans in others.

AI is pretty great at adding unit tests to code, for example, where humans do a just-OK job. Or in writing code for a very direct well scoped small problem.

AI is just OK at understanding product nuance and choices during larger implementations, or getting end to end coding right for any complex use cases.

[–] XLE@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

Just assuming this is all true (i.e. that AI can do good and bad code outputs), why would Linux development be able to succeed at something that Microsoft (which has an insider track with AI, far more money, and far more maturity) failed at?

[–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

If you take a step back, why would Linux development be able to succeed at all when Microsoft has far more money, more maturity, and more employees?

[–] XLE@piefed.social -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

(Edit: Invalid comparison and misdirection.)

[–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure if you only focus on the desktop market I guess you could make that argument, but IDK why you would ignore servers and phones? There are plenty of examples of Linux kicking Microsoft's ass. You think Microsoft is happy they don't sell server licenses for every server on earth? What about android?

[–] XLE@piefed.social -3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

What about Android...?
Sure, what about Google?

Do you actually have a reason Linux will be able to pull off using AI when Microsoft cannot, or is your sole argument that Linux has done other things? Because that's not how proof works.

[–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My argument is they are different groups of people with completely different incentive structures, so of course they will be different. You're acting like Microsoft is failing because they use AI, not because they have management forcing the use of AI.

I'm definitely not an "AI is going to write all the code" kind of person, but LLMs are definitely a useful tool for prototyping and other development processes. A project with a "No AI" rule is not inherently better than a project that uses AI as a tool.

[–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If your claim is baseless, don't fight to make it.

[–] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, let's flip this around. You made the baseless claim that "Linux development can't succeed where Microsoft fails" that seems pretty baseless and historically incorrect to me. But if you just want to keep trying to "win" this interaction and don't want to have a conversation I guess there's nothing left to say

[–] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No, I asked why anyone would assume Linux developers would get anywhere with AI, looking for anybody with a legitimate reason and not baseless speculation.

(Attempted burden of proof shift.)

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