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I often see these words used interchangeably, though as I understand it there is a difference between the two ideologies, no?

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (58 children)

A socialist society lacks private ownership of the means of production (the things that make society functional), the opposite being social ownership. You can still start a business and make money, but wealth is shared among the workers rather than being hoarded by a single private entity at the top (think co-op)

A communist society is much stricter, lacking private property and social classes. The state owns everything and allocates it based on need

Just for comparison, a capitalist society like the one we (unfortunately) live in is a rat race. Wealth goes to whoever can exploit the system the most, which is usually whoever has the most money to start. It is the Ultimate Deathmatch of society.

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago (11 children)

This makes sense, thanks for explaining. A follow up question: how is “democratic socialism” a form of socialism then? Because it doesn’t really sound like socialism. It sounds like capitalism with some wealth redistribution

[–] soratoyuki@piefed.social 24 points 2 days ago

It's complicated because 'social democracy' and 'democratic socialism' are two distinct ideologies, who's definitions have flipped throughout history, and who's biggest proponents (in the US at least) get it backwards.

Social democracy isn't a form of socialism since it's still capitalism, albeit one with guardrails. Most people that identify as democratic socialists -- aside from social democrats misusing the term -- are socialists that want to draw a contrast with Marxism-Leninism and other perceived 'authoritarian' forms of state socialism. But it's hard to define a concrete definition for the term since people use it as an umbrella term, including it's adoption by some state socialists.

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