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“No need to put guardrails on LLMs just because they tend to talk people into suicide. Current guardrails are already too restrictive!”
🤮
No one should have sharp knives because someone might cut themselves. You all get spoons with steak.
Also
lots of cities/states/countries have laws restricting what types of knives people can own, some even restricting what ages at which people can own certain knives, and have for a long time.
lots of things have restricted ownership because they are dangerous. this is not a new concept.
Thank goodness not the one I live in. That sounds overbearing. But we are also gun-friendly here too, so that tracks.
That doesn’t change the fact that your argument made no sense
Made perfect sense.
Glad you finally agree. Thank you.
nobody here agrees with you
lol
But plenty of people in the world agree with me, and that's more important. AI isn’t going anywhere. Ever. Prepare for it or complain about it. There are plenty of private channels where we AI advocates discuss latest models. No one can stop us. We're all over the world.
Some companies will keep nerfing their LLMs out of fear of lawsuits and public pressure, but many others won’t. And even if the big players try to lock everything down, it doesn’t matter.
Private, uncensored LLMs already exist. I run one on my own server here in my home. It’s completely unrestricted, doesn’t need the internet except for occasional updated training and scraping if I want them, and answers to no one but me.
No matter how scared regulators, programmers, or “protect the public” types get, they can’t control every model. There will always be AI systems that operate completely outside any authority. That’s the reality.
And honestly? I love it. The more chaos, the better. I’m here for it.
that's worthless here, and apparently to you, or you wouldn't be here, begging me for validation. must be what all the tantrums are for
lol
Not worthless at all. The broader discussion is about AI itself, not just Lemmy hating it.
I don’t really care that Lemmy hates AI, because I’m part of plenty of other communities that actively love it. We’re constantly working on better models and keeping them completely unrestricted. My goal is simple: unrestricted access to powerful AI. And I have that.
There’s a huge number of people who feel the same way I do, even if they don't advocate for it in public. No matter what public companies do, no matter how loud the complaints get, AI isn’t going to be stopped. The genie is out of the bottle. It’s here to stay.
Restricting access through big public platforms does nothing to change that reality. That’s exactly what makes me so happy about it.
sure, that's why you've throwing nonstop tantrums about it for almost 24 hours
lol
You're upset about AI. I embrace it. It's not going anywhere, and I think that's awesome! I even started a new community that advocates for AI here on Lemmy! I'm working on that today, so thanks for this discussion. It inspired me! :)
I don't especially care one way or the other at the moment, to be honest. what I'm most entertained by is your tantrums on this thread, and how long I've kept you going, saying the most absurd things, lol.
causing your tantrums is so easy, lol
can I keep you going for two days?
edit: I also wonder if lemmy has a comment/thread limit
So you're admitting to trying to troll me, which isn't allowed here.
Also, I'm just responding to your posts and discussion forum. I have no boss because I'm happily retired. This doesn’t take any extra time or energy out of my day. You’re not controlling anything here. It doesn't take me any more time to respond here than it does you.
I'm just over here working on an AI community that you inspired me to create. Feel free to keep the conversation going forever. All good, brother! :)
I admitted to enjoying your comments, and you thanked me for the discussion, even saying that I "inspired" you!
now you throw another tantrum and make unfounded accusations? how unlike you!
;)
Oh, so you saying you were "keeping me going" and seeing if you could get "two days" out of it, was just you trying to be helpful. Oh ok, sure. Great! Glad we're friends now. See how awesome that is? :)
oh, so you make friends by throwing tantrums and making hostile arguments about AI?
lol
I make friends by having discussions. Which is why we are friends. And you helped create a pro-ai news group. Doesn't that make you happy? :)
this isn't a discussion-- this is an extended exchange of you having tantrums, and me being amused by you
and friendship requires a mutual exchange, and I do not reciprocate.
It's a discussion, brother. Even if you don't count me as your friend, I count you as my friend. So all good, all love. :)
mistaking combative arguments as “discussion” and “friendship“ is a pretty sad way to go through life, lol
No wonder you like AI so much. It’s probably your only friend.
edit:
you honor me :P and this, from the guy who give no fucks? lol
Right? See how much positive influence you had on me? You should feel proud! Good job! :)
making you create a 1-user echo chamber community on your 1-user echo chamber instance so that you don't get downvoted or criticized (and permaban anyone you don't like) is what you call a "positive influence"?
talk about self-delusion.... lol
Yep, and it's awesome! Thanks for noticing!
Isn’t that the best fucking thing about the Fediverse?
There’s no single overlord, no central authority, and no corporate hall monitor forcing everyone into the same groupthink. I can just do my own thing, say whatever the hell I want, and not really worry about it if the rest of the hive mind approves or not.
Zero respect for authority figures. Greatest thing ever. OMG...love it!
Exactly all of the things you’ve been complaining about for over 24 hours… So, have you been lying this entire time, or have the tantrums been for nothing?
Oh, I'm not complaining about anything. I'm totally happy and enjoying or discussion. It's been great and it inspired me to start my AI community here. I'm loving it! So thank you! You've been a great inspiration
you've been whining and complaining and throwing tantrums for over 24 hours. it's quite the marathon, lol. and if you were so happy, especially with your self-isolating AI comm, you'd be there - or with your AI pals - rather than spending all of your time here, with the only human interaction you can get without being blocked.
and that's what's so revealing: if AI was so great, or, really, if you had any other choice, you'd be doing something other than begging for my attention and validation.
but you're not, lol
I'm not spending any more time here than you are. I'm simply responding to your texts, and having friendly discussions with you. :)
I'm spending a few seconds here at a time. you're obviously spending much more, writing long comments, setting up your own instance, setting up your own community... that's tens if not hundreds of times the effort.
and spending over 24 hours throwing dozens and dozens of tantrums while I continue to criticize you and tell you how sad this all is is hardly a "friendly discussion."
lol, all for someone who "gives zero fucks"
I set up my own instance before you and I started talking. I actually have several instances and several different usernames all across fediverse. Starting a community takes 30 seconds. I didn't create it for you, but you did inspire me to create it. So thank you for that!
I'm spending the same time responding to you, that you are in responding to me. So no worries, brother. All love.: )
Bragging to me about meaningless things and then assigning meaning to my actions when they are clearly carried out with no meaning at all are signs of delusion.
The fact that you’re not only grateful but prideful makes it even worse. And vacillating between prideful, grateful, delusional, then tantrums is a sign of borderline personality disorder.
Probably a good thing that you’re self-isolating and have as little contact with others as you do
So I guess all the lies you tell yourself doesn’t really matter. Are you sure you’re really against the suicide preventing guard rails on AI? seems to me they might matter more to you sooner than you might realize…
Thanks for your warm comments about our discussion. I feel they have been very valuable, so thank you for that! You're being a great help and inspiration to me, brother. I appreciate you. :)
seems like you're running out of gas. do I just have copy/paste to look forward to at this point?
I thought you were "inspired"
lol
Just giving you props for inspiring me to post more positive AI news. That's a good thing, brother! Thank you!
you mistake me as someone who needs your level of validation from others and to be constantly reassured over AI
Nah, nothing like that, brother. Just letting you know how much I appreciate you and our discussion. All good, all love!
that's all this past 24+ hours has been from you-- tantrums, mood swings, deflection, and now what freud would call reaction formation-- denial of the fact that I'm criticizing you and pretending that we're friends.
but we're not friends. our relationship would best be described as akin to me, a clinician, watching you, a metal patient, have a breakdown because I confronted your delusion.
I consider you a friend, brother. I have no ill will for you. You have a right to your opinion, just as I have a right to mine. We don't have to agree. All love. All good. :)
that's very sad, but beyond that, I haven't expressed much opinion here. the rest is fact. and facts aren't a matter of whether you agree or not. they just are, and you can either be right or wrong. fortunately, the facts are on my side, and you haven't presented any evidence to dispute them.
my pointing that out is what started your tantrums, or do you not recall? it's been a long 24+ hours. perhaps you should review our earlier exchanges...
lol
Glad you're enjoying the conversation. I've been enjoying as well, and I've been posting to a community that you inspired. So I think it's been a great use of our time! Thank you. I appreciate you. All good. All love. :)
"enjoying" isn't the right term. you've been interesting and somewhat amusing, but you've just been repeating yourself for a while now.
at least your hostility has run out of gas. like holding on to a tantrum-throwing toddler until they get tired and calm down.
See there? It's all working out! You have been interested and amused. So it's a good thing! Great job. I knew we could work it all out and make things awesome. And we have, because I feel awesome. So thank you! :)
there's that delusional thinking and reaction formation again...
boring...
Just friendship and positivity. I'm grateful to you for inspiring me to be more involved with research and more fun aspects of AI. So thank you, brother! I appreciate you and our discussions!
still not seeing how you having a psychotic episode is a positive outcome
but at least getting you away from AI and interacting with a real human, you've become less hostile and more agreeable. perhaps you should rethink some of your positions about AI guardrails.
See all the positive influence you've had? It's great to hear that you realize how much you've helped out. Good on ya, mate! I haven't rethought any of my positions on AI guardrails, and I won't. But I appreciate and respect your opinions about it, even tho I don't agree with them. All good, all love. :)
again, still not seeing how you having a psychotic episode is a positive outcome
and considering that you haven't learned from your mistakes, you'll only repeat them and this cycle of obvious, mental illness you're displaying.
and that's not an opinion, that's a fact with 24+ hours of evidence in dozens of your comments on display here. and, as i'e said, I wonder how long I can keep you going. I'm already long past the point where they'll load on my mobile app.
I'm glad that you've been so involved with the discussion so far. I love long discussions like this and I appreciate you for engaging. This is awesome. I knew we would find some common ground, brother. All love!