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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Whoever invites, pays. There's your equality. Man up and move on.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh that's a personal rule. We had that for a while but it quickly was clear it was unfair. There are a ton of expectations that one person invites the other, it just doesn't work out. First date I'd say play over the check, everything after that hopefully is a 50/50, or if one person can't afford becomes a conversation.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It really sucks that society has determined that men chase women. Now THAT is the unfair part.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Society didn't determine that so much as biology did.

Regardless, splitting the bill on a date is so completely different and not comparable to splitting shared marital assets during a divorce.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh. I forgot the part where I invite people to dinner with my penis.

Ridiculous.

We are SO far removed from biology that to consider it in social situations is just silly.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's the whole women get pregnant thing that I was referencing, my dude.

I always split bills on the first date regardless of the gender of my date. If men went behind my back to pay the entire bill after I said I wanted to split, I would never see them again.

There's plenty of women that have their own money. If you don't want to date a woman who doesn't want to split on dates, just don't date her.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Women being able to get pregnant does not in any way lead to men pursuing.

If two adults agree to split a bill, gee that's nice. It's also irrelevant. The topic here was "it's unfair that men pay", and my point is "it's not unfair. MEN don't pay. Inviters pay. And that's fair."

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah it does lol

If men were the ones to get and be pregnant for most of a year and women were able to ejaculate multiple times a day, our society would be structured differently.

At the end of the day, no one is being forced to pay.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you think being pregnant has anything to do with who pursues who?

You described an alternate scenario, but I still can't seem to connect the dots. What does pregnancy have to do with pursuit? What does frequency of insemination have to do with pursuit? Why isn't society structured in such a way that women are in charge and use men as semen providers and nothing else? That would also be a completely viable societal structure that fits within the biology. So why not that?

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I’m not anthropology 101 and I’m not your professor. This is very basic shit.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. I also can't explain things to people when I don't understand them myself. Much easier to pull the tough guy persona out and fake confidence.

Good show of it. 8/10.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

You’ve already shown that you’re not willing to engage in a good faith discussion about this, why would I waste my time trying to have an interesting discussion about patriarchies, societal expectations, and biology with you.

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