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[โ€“] GimmeUrBelt@lemmy.today -4 points 10 hours ago (27 children)

Aight, I know this comment is gonna bite me later, but I gotta speak my piece. I'm playing devil's advocate here. Beastiality, zoophilia, whatever you wanna call it... It isn't always a case of raping the animal. What is consent? It is ultimately an extremely arbitrary idea that humans fling around. For human-on-human interactions, obviously society has cemented it as something with clear-cut lines and rules. But, that's pretty much where it ends for us. Consent from animals is not something we ever seriously consider in any way.

Think about it. Did domesticated species, which we have dominated for our benefit, consent? Do dogs consent to anything we put them through as our pets? Do cats? Birds? Bugs?! The answer is no. We cannot communicate with other animals. So we forgo consent when it comes to the animals we interact with. Even when it comes to things that really has no direct benefit to the animal.

All I'm saying is, rape is rape, for sure. But when it comes to inter-species erotica, as a man once called it, it can't all be rape. Because animals rely on instinct more than anything, especially when it comes to sex. I guarantee a horse will show you when it doesn't appreciate it being touched in the no-no spot.

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[โ€“] absentbird@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone is arguing that animals have no understanding of consent, I think the issue is that there's a communication barrier in dealing with humans (I.e. they can't say 'yes')

Zoologists have a pretty robust understanding of rape and consent within the animal kingdom, but it's always through observing interactions between animals.

[โ€“] GimmeUrBelt@lemmy.today 2 points 4 hours ago

The point is consent is something that doesn't matter to the conversation of people who do the deed with animals. I think a much more productive line of questioning would be: Is the animal restrained in any way? Have they drugged the animal? What's the relationship between the animal and person?

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