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For a while now the transition away from Manifest V2 (MV2) to MV3 has been on-going and it looks like it is entering its final phase of deprecation, at least, in the case of Google Chrome. A recent discussion thread in the w3c WebExtensions Community Group GitHub repo has highlighted how the latest and upcoming versions of the most popular browser are expected to be its final releases with support for MV2 extensions.

What this essentially means is that the tricks and bypasses that were used to keep MV2 extensions like uBlock Origin and others alive will not work any more on Chrome, or at least not for very long. For example the Windows Registry mod that could extend MV2 availability will cease to function after Chromium version 151.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 172 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Oh look all the "chrome but in a different outfit" browsers are doing the same terrible shit? What a shocker, no one could have predicted that the many many things all on the same base where actuality just fake competition.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 51 minutes ago

Illusion of choice

[–] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, on a technical level chromium isn't a terrible browser engine. Building your own engine from scratch is Extremely Hard™ and it's entirely possible to build a decent browser on top of it, so I can understand why most alternative projects have done just that.

It's just... google's control over chromium is concerning.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

And an ecosystem of one engine is not healthy. Even if google was not google, this is a massive risk to take for the Easy™ way.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 16 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

God it still pisses me off what they did to my boy Opera. All of us left when they diverted after v12. We all saw this coming.

Then Vivaldi came which I have tried in quite a while but it sucked. Firefox it is.

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yeah opera used to be the one. I'm STILL pissed that they deleted all of my notes

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago

I like Vivaldi except for two things: it uses the same engine as Chrome so facilitates Google's stranglehold on web standards, and it is closed-source. For functionality and design it's one of the best, but those are important downsides.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 15 hours ago

Chrome is death to a browser, there is little reason to exist if google gets to make the big calls.

[–] reka@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

What about vivaldi sucked for you?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 77 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Firefox has webserial support now. I no longer need anything chromium. Let them rot.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

“Coming soon…”

[–] JohnHammerSky@lemmy.today 14 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 37 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Communicating with external devices via USB or the old D-Sub connectors.

Printers, microcontrollers, instruments, etc... Directly instead of through the OS.

Notably, ESPHome Programmer uses it for flashing ESP32s wired. Other companies like Solo Motor Controllers use it for delivering a user GUI to customers that is always updated but that can switch between versions instantly for production without having to having to deal with window's broken method of having to manually search and download .exes for every program.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

I had to use Brave earlier this year to flash firmware onto a Meshtastic device. It's good to hear that Firefox has that option now.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 6 points 21 hours ago

never heard of it till now. neat!

[–] baner@lemmy.zip 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Even grapheneOS use it for adb into your phone to flash the images.

[–] torlakur@szmer.info 13 points 20 hours ago

webserial

they use WebUSB in GrapheneOS

[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Really? Holy shit I can switch to zen fully at work and at home and uninstall chromium. Webserial was literally the only thing I needed

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I heard about the web usb thing, it's also going to be a game changer for me (I haven't tried yet, hopefully it works)

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 6 points 21 hours ago

It does? Guess I can finally yeet Chromium from my machine then.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev -4 points 16 hours ago

How about bluetooth support? Has that been fixed yet?

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 41 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

They are all chrome with google scratched out and their name written in sharpie in its place.

Of course they are all doing it, cause they are all the same thing.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They don't even try to pretend to fight it.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

because theres no fighting google.

Microsoft tried, and google won, which is why Edge became a chrome reskin instead of what it was before.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Yeah, but the worse they are the longer they live apparently.

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[–] MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz 2 points 22 hours ago

Microsoft "tried" about as well as a quadraplegic "tries" free climbing

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The winning move is not to do business with them, don't compete just exist and pretend they don't exist. Microslop played the game and lost, but it is a stupid silly game.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

kinda hard to do when google holds the internet by the balls. and can twist at any moment to get what they want.

Microsoft and Mozilla employees have both accused them of doing this in the past, to sabotage non-chrome browsers on google services, to make chrome look better and drive users to chrome.

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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

All the FF forks are the same. Soft forks.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Pale Moon is not a soft fork.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] zewm@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

Can hold spaghetti but not a meatball 😔

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a damn shame, I've always liked Vivaldi otherwise. I've been dual running Vivaldi and Firefox for years now, Vivaldi for casual browsing and Firefox for more serious stuff + YouTube.

Oh well, it's time to do a full switch, I guess.

Kinda funny, I've been doing the exact same thing with Win/Linux for approximately the same length of time. Needed Win because of dome software that just doesn't work linux, and sadly, I still do.

Google and Microsoft can go fuck each other with a frozen cactus for all I care.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The folks at Vivaldi have been doing some work on their internal ad blocker, I think with the intention to bring most of the functionality of uBo internally so that it doesn't have to be an extension. Not sure how far along they are, but maybe they're intentionally keeping it quiet.

[–] reka@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Vivaldi have earned and deserve a lot of trust here I believe. All my chromium eggs sit in their basket.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Same here. I'm an Opera refugee so to say (and I had high hopes for Opera actually). I've been using Vivaldi since its first public alpha/preview/whatever they were calling it.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Yup, Vivaldi user for 8 years and it hasn't let me down yet, but this post is troubling news.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Aye, I'm just not sure how it's going to play out. One can hope, though. It's definitely one of the best options Chrome-wise either way.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm wondering what the decision making was when they were starting (which is now 10 years ago already, time flies, yo).

From today's perspective, a Firefox fork sounds way more logical. Back then maybe things with Blink/Chromium weren't looking so grim, maybe they were relying on the experience of that part of the team that moved over from Opera...

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

10 years ago Google was trusted and liked. The cracks were starting to show, but we're talking about the Google that was still open sourcing a lot of their products and loudly opposing government censorship of the internet.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 19 hours ago

Yeah its a real surprise. :)