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[Ethics] Why do people condemn Zoophilia on the basis of other animal's inability to consent but those same people kill animals without asking for their consent? Why such inconsistency? (lemmy.world)

submitted 22 hours ago by when@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

We don’t eat wood chips and don’t like the way they taste, not because they are bad for us, but rather because we would rather eat potato chips.

I'm sorry but I find this premise completely ridiculous - obviously we don't like how they taste because they are bad for us. Evolution isn't only about preference, it's also about avoiding stuff, like poison or rotten food or woodchips or whatever. I don't think we can come to an agreement on such a premise.

[+] MrOtingocni@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Evolution did not code us to avoid wood chips. There’s no “wood chip aversion” gene. It coded us to seek out potato chips.

Again, I just think this is completely wrong. Evolution definitely does not only code us to go towards things we want, it also codes us to avoid harmful things. Evolution optimizes on all fronts at once.

We risk mischaracterizing the nature of evolutionary forces by assigning to it a level of forethought it does not have.

Evolution is a concept so obviously it doesn't have forethought, but it doesn't need that forethought to still evolve in a given direction. Natural selection drives evolution to whatever is preferable - if that includes an aversion to incest, then natural selection will select for that trait, given enough time.

So the whole point I am making is that aversion towards incest is not rooted in primary drives but rather in the socio-primate drives.

What evidence or arguments do you have for this? Aside from what you've presented already, as that has not been convincing. My explanation seems consistent and simpler and occams razor would prefer it.