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[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 65 points 7 months ago (21 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

Patrick Minnis, an atmospheric scientist with NASA's Langley Research Center, has said that logic does not dissuade most chemtrail proponents: "If you try to pin these people down and refute things, it's, 'Well, you're just part of the conspiracy'".

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray

From the page:

Between 1949 and 1969, open-air tests of biological agents were conducted 239 times.

239 open-air tests of biological agents in a 20 year period. Remind me again why people have no reason to be paranoid? This wasn't that long ago.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

These aren't conspiracy theories.

Is there something real behind these people's paranoia and suspicion? Do our government, military, and our corporations inspire trust?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

These aren't conspiracy theories.

They once were, and then they were proven to be true.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Of course, a true conspiracy unfolds because the masses are unaware. The masses are gaslit if they start catching on.

But in the absence of compelling evidence, it's pointless to wildly speculate about from my perspective.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But in the absence of compelling evidence, it's pointless to wildly speculate about from my perspective

I think that is lazy and naive. For example, is it really pointless to speculate about the official explanation for, say, the deadliest mass shooting by a lone gunman in American history?

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If I was there, if I was involved in law enforcement, if I had access to the crime scene and raw footage and evidence, I might be able to speculate. Armchair speculation is insufficient for me.

There are plenty of events that raise legitimate questions and concerns - like suspicious, high profile deaths that are immediately ruled as suicide. Everybody is free to hold their own positions and perspectives as far as I am concerned. Question on, sate your concern and curiosity, you'll get no arguments against that from me.

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