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[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 29 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the United States can't change the name of a body of water that's shared between multiple countries. If it's not that, it still hasn't gotten any sort of congressional approval.
Edit: Lake Michigan is the only one that's fully within the US. The others are patrolled by both the US Coast Guard and the Canadian Coast Guard, both have the ability to arrest anyone on either side of the border. The state governments that border the lakes have some power over them, but they're held in trust for public use. The International Joint Commission resolves any disputes regarding them. I'm not quite sure what would have to go into changing the name of Lake Ontario, but it would at least require Canadian approval and US congressional approval, perhaps even approval from the state of New York and the province of Ontario. Oh yeah, this is also completely stupid and should under no circumstances actually happen.

[–] Vikthor@piefed.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Technically, there is no lake Michigan, only lake Michigan-Huron.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting. So why exactly is a distinction made? Some political reason from the past?

[–] uid0gid0@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

It's simply convention. Although the Straits of Mackinac are 5 miles wide at the narrowest point, in relation to the size of the lakes it makes a significant demarcation. Sort of like the Straits of Gibraltar and the Atlantic Ocean and Mediterranean Sea.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 27 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Gonna be really hard to get Canadian congressional approval as we have no congress

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm well aware. I meant approval from both the congress of the United States and the government of Canada. I just wrote it a little awkwardly.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 9 points 12 hours ago

I know, just messing

Well you guys better get right on that soon cause we need your congressional approval ASAP!

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds nice.

If Trump really wants to turn the screws, he can make it a requirement of federal contracts that all contractors use maps that comply with his infantile demmands.

I think you're kind of living in a pre-Trump reality where laws and procedures means something. It's a super bad idea to feel comfortable with this administration because something they want to do is technically illegal. Everything is up for grabs right now.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 2 points 7 hours ago

I partly just thought that going over what it would require could be interesting. You're right, he can try to make contractors do that. But that doesn't mean that citizens of either country are actually going to honor the name. Sure, Google and Apple will change their maps to suck him off, but nearly nobody is ever going to unironically call it Lake America. I live in Alabama, a deeply conservative state that borders the Gulf of Mexico. Even here, nobody calls it the Gulf of America. Odds are, he'll forget about this shit just as quickly.

[–] chunk6235@piefed.social 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure the United States can't change the name of a body of water that's shared between multiple countries.

Someone forgot about the GuLf Of AmErIcA already

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't forget, but I'm pretty sure Trump has. I don't think he's talked about it in quite a while. I've never heard anybody actually call it the Gulf of America, and I live in the Deep South. I'm not sure it's even used by the departments in the executive branch. This will probably be a similar situation.

[–] chunk6235@piefed.social 3 points 5 hours ago

I see it on maps sometimes (fucking Google being Google), so it irritates me whenever I run across it

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't forget. Name never changed

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Except that it was for over 300 million people

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

No it wasn't. Executive orders don't have the authority to change the names of jack shit.

Even post offices need a fucking Congressional bill to change their name.