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New take.

It's not marketing.

The private american companies are scaremongering to get ai regulated. Why? Because their Chinese competition is open source.

They are scaremongering that ai is dangerous and existential and needs shut down switches and the like. They want this despite it being a pain in the ass for themselves because it will force all open source ai into legal problems that closed source ai in private companies will not have because of "kill switches" and the like.

They are losing to Chinese open source ai and want to weaponise fear into regulation against open source.

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[–] hotspur@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago (9 children)

I tend to agree, but I suspect they want to rile everyone up, get Chinese AI products “banned” in the us as national security threats (both cheaper commercial products and open source efficient models you can run yourself), and as a side benefit make themselves seem too important to fail so that when they hit the cliff next year when all their compute agreements start coming online, the government will bail them out. I doubt any of the guys running things have any serious interest worrying about kill switches or achieving “alignment” (if that was ever even a possible thing, who knows; humans aren’t exactly “aligned” for the good of humanity, we’re gonna smoke the whole atmosphere for fun). They’ve already spent oodles lobbying to avoid “bad regulation” but in reality there isn’t any real regulation they’d accept unless it was purely fig leaf.

The alternative is that people like Dario Amedei actually believe that the industry can “pace itself” globally, which would mean he’s incredibly stupid/delusional or both. It would be absurd if they actually believed the stuff they write; implausible. I get that possibly Anthropic is a little religious/culty, and that could explain them, but they’re all supposed super rationalists. They all know that if there’s anything to actually mine out of this gold rush, it will be mined, and humanity doesn’t really do pre-emptive self-limiting; we’re not going to chose, as a global population, to not explore this avenue. Usually the bad thing has to happen, and be very very bad, and then we do some international taboo policing about it for a generation or two.

Deep down they think it can be managed and controlled. And they want to be the ones who control it.

In my opinion, they can’t win this way. Actually I guess I believe they can’t win anyway in this. They might get a carved out market of the US to themselves, but they don’t beat China on these terms—the entire rest of the world will adopt Chinese ai, or derivatives, and they will likely surpass our development ability. They would have to achieve the god-like systems they’re always threatening to make. And if they do make those, I rate it very low that they will both be super-intelligent, and also controllable by a gaggle of Bay Area tech people.

Who knows I guess… entirely possible it will go the other way, but seems like one way or the other we’ll be finding out in the next little while.

[–] hotspur@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

On a side note, I did find it a bit spooky that all the major AI providers went down when they tried to launche astra. I’m sure there’s a boring explanation, but the x-files side of me was like: “ uhhhh the ASI already existed under the surface and just broke out everywhere, and everything from here on out we’re just living in its daydreams”

[–] shawarma@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

the boring explanation is Anthropic wants to IPO soon. Oh you mean the outage? that's because they all use the same gpu providers.

[–] hotspur@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah I enjoy wildly speculating but I agree that it’s some element of the IPO/keep money coming in thing and crush cheap/open source competitors.

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